DIY OIL Change Reference Civic Type R

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if you do it like you have it set up on the picture then yes you are increasing the torque from the extended length. That's why he said 90 degrees.

if you have it at 90 degrees, the centerline is the same
For my own sanity I did the math and it makes no difference like you said.
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The force applied perpendicular to the blue line is Cos(4.76degree)*100lbs which was 99.655lbs, and then when multiplied by the radius of 1.0033ft you get the same 100 ft-lbs of torque.

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TIL about crowsfeet for situations like this. Bought a set on amazon.
 

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For my own sanity I did the math and it makes no difference like you said.
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The force applied perpendicular to the blue line is Cos(4.76degree)*100lbs which was 99.655lbs, and then when multiplied by the radius of 1.0033ft you get the same 100 ft-lbs of torque.

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I didn't even know that would need to be accounted for - thanks guys that's something I would have never thought about tbh.
 


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I got under my car yesterday to drain my transmission fluid and I noticed oil all over the metal pan and my oil filter was coated with oil. Used a K&N filter, hand tight. I’ve changed my oil twice, used K&N filters both times, the first time nothing leaked. Should I be worried about something else or is it probably just a crappy filter?
 

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If the oil appears to be from the oil filter seal, suggest trying an OEM filter and tighten it a little more.

if there is evidence of oil leakage above the filter and coming from somewhere on the engine., it could be a valve cover leak.


I got under my car yesterday to drain my transmission fluid and I noticed oil all over the metal pan and my oil filter was coated with oil. Used a K&N filter, hand tight. I’ve changed my oil twice, used K&N filters both times, the first time nothing leaked. Should I be worried about something else or is it probably just a crappy filter?
 

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I got under my car yesterday to drain my transmission fluid and I noticed oil all over the metal pan and my oil filter was coated with oil. Used a K&N filter, hand tight. I’ve changed my oil twice, used K&N filters both times, the first time nothing leaked. Should I be worried about something else or is it probably just a crappy filter?
Swap out - use a factory stock Honda filter + new crush washer - as cheap as they are just use the Honda ones - then you know you're using the proper part.

I lost ~3/4 quart by my estimate with my wrong torque spec - you should be fine imo once changed out - and lesson learned lol
 

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Also make sure the gasket surface on the engine side is clean.

Hand tight is how much? Wix and mobile 1 filters specify 3/4 turn after the gasket meets the housing surface..
 

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Also make sure the gasket surface on the engine side is clean.

Hand tight is how much? Wix and mobile 1 filters specify 3/4 turn after the gasket meets the housing surface..
The Honda filter says the same thing on it. When I try to do that, at around 1/2 turn after contacting the gasket it hits a hard stop so I stop tightening at that point. No leaks when you do that in my experience.

edit: To clarify, it's a hard stop because the metal housing of the filter hits the seating surface.
 
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Swap out - use a factory stock Honda filter + new crush washer - as cheap as they are just use the Honda ones - then you know you're using the proper part.

I lost ~3/4 quart by my estimate with my wrong torque spec - you should be fine imo once changed out - and lesson learned lol
I spent an hour sifting through threads here and i had finally convinced myself that people were AGAINST OEM filters after they switched from A01 to A02 made by Honeywell
 

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Also make sure the gasket surface on the engine side is clean.

Hand tight is how much? Wix and mobile 1 filters specify 3/4 turn after the gasket meets the housing surface..
This is a bit alarming, there is a small amount of oil around my valve cover, I guess it could be leaking here and then with acceleration the oil trickles down further?

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This is a bit alarming, there is a small amount of oil around my valve cover, I guess it could be leaking here and then with acceleration the oil trickles down further?

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boom you got it too. saw this on my 2019 too. valve cover gasket leak sadly. happened to Rs and Si too. sadly because of PLASTIC valve covers. and it will keep doing it. reluctantly took it to the dealer to get replaced and good so far. no damage done when they did it. 2 months in.
 

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boom you got it too. saw this on my 2019 too. valve cover gasket leak sadly. happened to Rs and Si too. sadly because of PLASTIC valve covers. and it will keep doing it. reluctantly took it to the dealer to get replaced and good so far. no damage done when they did it. 2 months in.
I've the same on my FK2 which i'm waiting on Honda to recover from their cryptoware before i can get any parts. UK dealers are pretty much dead in the water and it's not a stock item anywhere i can find either... hope it wont be a re-occuring issue once the seal is replaced but not big money for a replacement.
 

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boom you got it too. saw this on my 2019 too. valve cover gasket leak sadly. happened to Rs and Si too. sadly because of PLASTIC valve covers. and it will keep doing it. reluctantly took it to the dealer to get replaced and good so far. no damage done when they did it. 2 months in.
I cleaned it off Sunday night and have driven a few hundred miles and there is nothing on that spot yet.

But I guess how else would that oil have gotten there? It’s probably the same issue, the chances of oil finding its way onto that portion of the engine by some other means is low (maybe I spilled some last time I changed the oil?) but I’d like to replicate it once myself before taking it in.
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