So basically its a screw up and typical corporate what's the absolute least we can do while we just wait for the cars that will die. All while letting people drive screwed up cars so we dont spend anything?
Dont cars in northern climates have those plug in engine warmers? I know my moms lacrosse has one!All DI engines have oil dilution to an extent. The prudent thing to do (especially in cold weather) is run the engine long enough to reach normal operating temps. If you live somewhere where it gets below freezing, it's probably not a good idea to drive a few blocks and shut the engine off.
What the software update does is raise idle speed and change some A/C unit parameters to basically speed up the engine getting to normal operating temps. I get it that people are panicking over this, but, I don't think it's as catastrophic as people make it out to be. Just my two cents.
Pretty much, yes. In yes, in the same way that dying of of random cancer kills a portion of the population. Pretty much ever car has a flaw. You do what preventatives you can... whether they're covered by the manufacturer or is something you do to reduce your own risk... and you go on with life and don't overly worry about it.
They may very well change their tune as they implement their changes and get some more data. As time goes on and if class actions keep rolling, we may all benefit by lengthened powertrain warranties... at least for the engines at no cost. This would negate for them the need to do a recall to correct a design issue that can be improved, but not fully corrected by what they're trying to accomplish with TSB. They said that was done in Canada... though it's only an extra measly year beyond what we get by default state-side. Will have to see what Honda USA does. I'd be surprised if they don't tack on more time. The Nissan radiator/transmission issues I'd brought up earlier made them to a 8 to 9 year prorate style warranty to fully, or partially cover repairs... though the mileage limits were pretty low (ending at 100k miles). At least no ones dying like from that airbag recall from a few years back. I'm not sure what Tesla's doing after another person got decapitated a week or so ago by autopilot putting them under the back of a semi... though that's a whole different conversation of whether the owner, the automaker... software manufacture, whatever, are at fault for a fatal accident.
Well originally I made a statement about the article leading into my question of if this might increase cars across Hondas line including the R as a way for them to recoup cost as the article said this was gonna cost Honda a ton. But like usual instead of discussing my question I asked people decided to pick apart the part of my post that I really wasn't addressing. so I got aggravated and removed the original question since no one wanted to talk about that. I did how ever ask it again twice in comment further down and both those times it was ignored as well. The reason I posted it her was originally related to my curiosity abut opinions if this would effect the prices of Rs. But if you have ever read any of my posts ( like them or not LOL) you will notice instead of discussing what I bring up people seem to love to tear apart my posts and go on for 5 pages about something I wasn't even asking. LOL . gotta love forums.
My bad. "No". I don't think Honda will raise their costs because of this specific issue. I can give too many examples of different automakers that have had substantial costs resulting in a loss... that this just doesn't seem that major. This will cost them some money... but in the whole scheme of things, they'll spend the minimal amount to fix the few cars that die, do the TSB as a preventative and soldier on.
I tend to agree with the above. Just look what the VW/Porsche/Audi Group just went through with Diesel Gate. Cost the companies Billions with a B, people went/or will go to jail and it's not over. I've read nothing about an increase of prices on the new vehicles since this blew up. If prices on cars went up due to TSB's from my Rav4 experience a new Rav would cost about $60k! Seems like I get a recall notice about once per month.(and most are B.S.)
Toyota lost over a BILLION dollars with the sticky accelerator thing years back... and people died as a result. Ford/Firestone lost PILES of money over the blowing-tire-rolling-Explorer thing years before that, with multimillion dollar lawsuits. Airbag recall for defective ones that injured and killed people. In the whole scheme of things... it's pretty minor, and none of those last issues sunk an automaker. This isn't the sort of thing that will kill you so there aren't going to any large settlements. It'd take 1000 dead engines to even cost them a million, assuming $10k per engine/labor. It's just not that much money in the whole scheme of things. The real question to me is will it affect long term (10+ year, 150k+ mile engine durability?) Most of us, statistically, won't still have there cars and it'd be something that's affect the used market possibility... but Honda will have made their money.
