Honda quality sorely lacking

  1. NotSerious

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    Well, that's true... I mean Socialism currently is for the Wealthy & Corporations - leaving reality and crumbs for the general population. What we need is Socialism for the general population, with no corporate officials. There is soft wear that can replace officials very easily. And with the eventual and inevitable ending of most traditional "jobs", we won't need very reliable transportation to go to and from our work places. Basic Living Incomes will be the norm and we'll find new things to complain about. It was never about Race. It was always about Money. It was never about Gender. It was always about Control. In the meantime, Rock and Roll is our only Solace. It's this in between period of buying small, turbo engines that cry out in high temps to be free from bondage that we car buyers must pay attention. All electrics should be crazy fun. More nuclear plants and burning fossil fuels to generate electricity to move us around to pointless jobs of the future as well as sporting events. Go Monkeys !!
     
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    I thoroughly enjoy my crumbs....Actually, I get more tasty crumbs than I deserve..... thank you the Wealthy and Corporations for your generosity... :thumbsup: No complaints at all. Thank you again, the Rich. :bow:

    I love small displacement turbo engines. :love: Mine is very cool and doesn't cry. Generally life has been treating me very well. You must have had bad experience with your dodges.
     
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    People don’t really think about it but the 20th century saw machines completely transform warfare and take over the bulk of our work but this was machines controlled by our hands. Now the 21st century is ushering in machines taking over work and slowly it is by machines that don’t need us. Completely autonomous machines invented by us to replace us. So then what is the purpose of living? Like you said, is it for sporting games that are purely symbolic? Is it to just look at things around us while we just sit there? It’s already happening. We are becoming extremely sedentary and extremely passive.
     
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    You should try owning a Chevy. EVERYTHING goes haywire
     
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    Been there done that. It's almost comical thinking back on all the problems I had with mine.
     
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    I appreciate your sharing. I think many of Honda owners come from those experiences that help us appreciate the magic of solid purring and reliability!

    I owned a steady and reliable Buick but it was a simple guzzling V6, so perhaps the modern turbocharged Chevies have pushed the question of reliability over the limit?? Same with Ford and the heavily boosted Foci?
     
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    I would guess that this is more about Honda and Toyota copying each other because Honda makes their transmissions in-house.
     
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    My 06 Cobalt with 219,000 is still going without a hiccup. A few ball joints, control arm bushings, AC compressor at 208k, coil pack, rusted fuel line....all on cheap ass fuel and reg maintenance. Oh, doesn’t leak a drop of anything
    We’ll see if this Honda can hold up. My 86 CRX SI hit 240k before I sold it.
     
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    My older brother was a mechanic now retired he told me back in the 80’s when we was looking at a mustang svo in a ford showroom don’t be surprised when you see more four cylinder turbocharged or supercharged cars 20 30 years from now and V8s fade-away. Btw a coworker traded his Chrysler 300 for a 2019 civic sport hatchback ( he had problems with his Chrysler)
     
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    I'm old. Let me get that out of the way first. Way back when, when most people were driving Detroit iron, I was driving a first year Honda CRX, first year Acura Integra and a 5th gen Honda Civic. Clearly, was a huge Honda fan. They had the best manual transmission and engines for the money. They handled well and the fit and finish was great for the price.

    After that, due to financial reasons, I owned a first gen Hyundai Elantra GT hatch and first gen Kia Forte SX. Both of those cars were better than expected to drive and reliable.

    In 2017, I was ready for a new car. It was down to three vehicles... a 10th gen Civic, the Elantra GT Sport turbo or a GTI. Ultimately, I chose a EX-L Civic sedan and I love the car. But, these Civics have some definite areas were quality has gone down.

    The paint chips way too easily. The sheetmetal is incredibly thin in spots. The body panel gaps are huge. The stock headlights are dim. No glovebox light. "Carpet" that is thinner than thin.

    Also, not a quality issue but what is with the horn that sounds like it belongs on a tricycle?

    The engineering and driveability are great, although the stock Firestones are a far cry from the Michelins that came on my other Hondas.
     
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    This. Yes, I don't own the 10gen civic but test drove couple of them and wanted to buy Si or Type R. Si interior cloth is terrible - much worse than the previous gen civic si I owned. I don't understand car manufacturers. Why go cheap on these things. i would guess it would have added may be $100 to the price of car to keep the carpet and interior cloth on doors same as previous gen (in terms of quality).
     
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