Does Traction Control really kill power this bad?

[gtman]

I'm overall pretty happy with my cars acceleration but down the road I may get a tune to boost it up a bit. While I was surfing today, I came across an article that shocked the hell out of me. Edmunds ran acceleration tests on their long term Civic turbo and there was a huge difference in times with TC off versus having it on. With it on, they only went 0-60 in 8.1 seconds. WTF? That seems slow as shit. With TC off, they got a respectable 6.9 second 0-60. Their 1/4 mile time of 16.08 is slower than my 2002 Elantra GT. Does that even sound right?

Here are their numbers:

Test Results
Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.8 (w/ TC on 3.7)
0-45 (sec): 4.6 (w/ TC on 5.6)
0-60 (sec): 6.9 (w/TC on 8.1)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 6.6 (w/TC on 7.7)
0-75 (sec): 9.9 (w/TC on 11.8)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 15.07 @ 93.39 (w/TC on 16.08 @ 89.1)

https://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic...ance-tested-a-deep-dive-into-the-numbers.html

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[indexcow]

I'm overall pretty happy with my cars acceleration but down the road I may get a tune to boost it up a bit. While I was surfing today, I came across an article that shocked the hell out of me. Edmunds ran acceleration tests on their long term Civic turbo and there was a huge difference in times with TC off versus having it on. With it on, they only went 0-60 in 8.1 seconds. WTF? That seems slow as shit. With TC off, they got a respectable 6.9 second 0-60. Their 1/4 mile time of 16.08 is slower than my 2002 Elantra GT. Does that even sound right?

Here are their numbers:

Test Results
Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.8 (w/ TC on 3.7)
0-45 (sec): 4.6 (w/ TC on 5.6)
0-60 (sec): 6.9 (w/TC on 8.1)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 6.6 (w/TC on 7.7)
0-75 (sec): 9.9 (w/TC on 11.8)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 15.07 @ 93.39 (w/TC on 16.08 @ 89.1)

https://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic...ance-tested-a-deep-dive-into-the-numbers.html

@gtman Huh, earlier in the year I read on this forum that a user found that they got better results with TC on. I don't remember what exact situation that user was referring to but I had always thought it was better to leave it on. I'm interested to see more information on this.

 

[gtman]

@gtman I'm interested to see more information on this.

Me too. The differences that Edmunds found between TC on or off were huge. More than a second slower on 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs with TC on. That just doesn't seem right. Or it says that the Honda VSA system is WAY too aggressive and is REALLY holding the car back for "safety" sake.

This is the number that really blew my mind:
0-75 (sec): 9.9 (w/TC on 11.8)

Two seconds slower to 75mph is a staggering difference. Is our car really that slow with TC on?

 

[indexcow]

Me too. The differences that Edmunds found between TC on or off were huge. More than a second slower on 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs with TC on. That just doesn't seem right. Or it says that the Honda VSA system is WAY too aggressive and is REALLY holding the car back for "safety" sake.

This is the number that really blew my mind:
0-75 (sec): 9.9 (w/TC on 11.8)

Two seconds slower to 75mph is a staggering difference. Is our car really that slow with TC on?

@gtman I'll have to become more familiar with the process on how to completely turn TC off then

 

[gtman]

@gtman I'll have to become more familiar with the process on how to completely turn TC off then

I need to do that as well. It looks like a pain in the ass to do but once you get the hang of it I guess it gets easier.

 

[indexcow]

I need to do that as well. It looks like a pain in the ass to do but once you get the hang of it I guess it gets easier

@gtman I guess some tunes make it easy but there not much of an advantage for a 2.0l like myself

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