And the winner is.....

[BoostedSiCoupe]

It is definitely overpriced, but is a pretty awesome car. For sure it will outlast that BMW piece of shit Supra

you make a very good point. i forgot about that amazing german engineering lmao

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[Captaindicki]

Oh yeah, I remember the Celica! Unfortunately Toyota no longer has a dedicated infrastructure for sports cars, hence the reason the Supra has a freakin crap ass BMW engine that's going to break down. Toyota mainly builds cars that sell in large volumes, and sports cars don't sell in large volume

From my understanding, the BMW and Mercedes motors are the solid point of their cars. It's the rest of their package that breaks early and puts their owners in the poor house

 

[BoostedSiCoupe]

From my understanding, the BMW and Mercedes motors are the solid point of their cars. It's the rest of their package that breaks early and puts their owners in the poor house

oh no, their engines are terrible as well. youre lucky if you get 100k out of them without any major issues.

 

[amirza786]

From my understanding, the BMW and Mercedes motors are the solid point of their cars. It's the rest of their package that breaks early and puts their owners in the poor house

Mercedes....maybe, at least better than BMW. BMW's have all types of issues, from electronics to engine. A common problem with especially their M series is that the oil they use is so thick that you have to literally warm it up so you don't damage the valves from oil starvation, Valve Stem seal replacement is very common.

Anyway, here is some additional information on their engine problems https://jalopnik.com/bmw-engines-are-gigantic-pieces-of-shit-1784684330

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After reading the article above, I guess BMW's are shittier than even I imagined.....

 

[amirza786]

oh no, their engines are terrible as well. youre lucky if you get 100k out of them without any major issues.

This is when a BMW drives its best

 

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BMW- Breaks in Many Ways

 

[amirza786]

BMW- Breaks in Many Ways

How about "Breaks My Wallet"

 

[xbbnx]

How about "Breaks My Wallet"

Thats included in the "many ways"

 

[REBELXSi]

way too overpriced for what it is.

It may be expensive but it's a much better car. If I just went by what you said, it sounds like an awful car and your only specific complaint so far was the price

 

[saz468]

Me personally both the Honda and Toyota is more dependable than a BMW in the long run and a better resale this is my opinion

 

[amirza786]

Me personally both the Honda and Toyota is more dependable than a BMW in the long run and a better resale this is my opinion

Well, the Supra will be the first unreliable Toyota because they wanted an inline 6....

 

[Tags]

For a while there was a rumor of a 4-door 86/FR-S. Even some renderings floating around. But nothing came of it. I have to say that a next-gen 86 with four doors, a fresh interior, and a boosted or evolved motor making at least 220hp or so would be one of the most desirable new cars imaginable.

 

[amirza786]

For a while there was a rumor of a 4-door 86/FR-S. Even some renderings floating around. But nothing came of it. I have to say that a next-gen 86 with four doors, a fresh interior, and a boosted or evolved motor making at least 220hp or so would be one of the most desirable new cars imaginable.

The 86/BRZ is way to small for 4 doors, it would never happen. Also in my opinion the power is where it should be, boosting the power would make this car less manageable. This would be a car I would buy 5 to 10 years old as a weekend/project car

 

[Tags]

The 86/BRZ is way to small for 4 doors, it would never happen. Also in my opinion the power is where it should be, boosting the power would make this car less manageable. This would be a car I would buy 5 to 10 years old as a weekend/project car

It's already an adapted Impreza chassis. I see no necessary impediment to stretching the wheelbase (or stretching it back) a little and slapping an extra set of doors on it. And dang, it makes 150-something lb-ft of torque. Long, long way to go up there before making anything "unmanageable."

The U.S. market hasn't had a tight, affordable, compact, rwd 4-door sports sedan since the original IS300, probably. Even that was quasi-luxury. So maybe you have to go back to the 70's or early 80's for something for the masses.

 

[NHCivicGuy]

It's already an adapted Impreza chassis. I see no necessary impediment to stretching the wheelbase (or stretching it back) a little and slapping an extra set of doors on it. And dang, it makes 150-something lb-ft of torque. Long, long way to go up there before making anything "unmanageable."

The U.S. market hasn't had a tight, affordable, compact, rwd 4-door sports sedan since the original IS300, probably. Even that was quasi-luxury. So maybe you have to go back to the 70's or early 80's for something for the masses.

One of the best cars I owned! They came with the 2JZ, a 5 speed, limited slip, RWD- ugh!

I sold this earlier this year, after having almost 240k miles. One of the most reliable, fun and best feeling cars I have driven. Coming to the Si was different, but in many good ways. I do miss the RWD feel of that car, especially in the winter time and being able to pop the rear end out so easily. The Si is fun, nimble, economical and still a blast to drive overall. I have no regrets coming to it, but will always have a soft spot for the IS300s. Definitely will want to pick one up down the line from down south and mod/restore it up.

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