Hondata Flashpro Tuning for the FK8 Type R!!

[TypeRinATL]

Ah ok. I know what you mean now.
So if we are able to push another 50 to 100 hp out of this car what do you guys think it'll do to the reliability? Do you guys think the engine/transmission etc can handle it? Or would a lot of parts need to be changed out with the tune?

I seriously doubt 50-100 horsepower would be a problem for this car. All of the internals were built very strong for this car.

I think torque will be the killer. I’m betting once we’re up around 400wtq the clutch will be the weak link, but that’s an easy fix with a stage+ clutch.

I’m not worried about pistons, rods, bearings, valves, etc at all.

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[Dragnet]

Both cars are 235kW, difference is how HP is calculated in the US and Europe...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Thank you for the link. So it just appears the method used to measure the hp is the main reason for the slightly different numbers. I do remember Europeans always saying brake horsepower instead of just horsepower.

 

[Dragnet]

I seriously doubt 50-100 horsepower would be a problem for this car. All of the internals were built very strong for this car.

I think torque will be the killer. I’m betting once we’re up around 400wtq the clutch will be the weak link, but that’s an easy fix with a stage+ clutch.

I’m not worried about pistons, rods, bearings, valves, etc at all.

That sounds good. Would it be safe to assume the torque would probably surpass the horsepower? The reason I ask this is because almost every video I've watched (I'm using the Si as an example) of someone using a flashpro to tune their car they seem to bump their torque up over their horsepower. I don't know why this is. So if we are say bumping our Type R's to around 400hp would the torque probably jump to 400 or more?

Correct me if I am wrong. This it just what I have noticed.

 

[shihabp79]

Thank you for the link. So it just appears the method used to measure the hp is the main reason for the slightly different numbers. I do remember Europeans always saying brake horsepower instead of just horsepower.

We use brake hp in the US, as well. It’s just that SAE net measurement comes out smaller.

 

[shihabp79]

That sounds good. Would it be safe to assume the torque would probably surpass the horsepower? The reason I ask this is because almost every video I've watched (I'm using the Si as an example) of someone using a flashpro to tune their car they seem to bump their torque up over their horsepower. I don't know why this is. So if we are say bumping our Type R's to around 400hp would the torque probably jump to 400 or more?

Correct me if I am wrong. This it just what I have noticed.

That depends mostly on the flow characteristics of the turbocharger.

 

[TypeRinATL]

That sounds good. Would it be safe to assume the torque would probably surpass the horsepower? The reason I ask this is because almost every video I've watched (I'm using the Si as an example) of someone using a flashpro to tune their car they seem to bump their torque up over their horsepower. I don't know why this is. So if we are say bumping our Type R's to around 400hp would the torque probably jump to 400 or more?

Correct me if I am wrong. This it just what I have noticed.

With the stock turbo, it is very likely that torque will be higher than horsepower.

We have to wait and see, but the stock turbo is going to be limited on the top end where all the horsepower is made. What won’t be limited is how hard the boost comes on in the low end which is where most of the torque is made.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see 400wtq and 360(ish)whp. The stock turbo on the top end WILL be the limiting factor, we just don’t know how much yet.

 

[Tim818]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see 400wtq and 360(ish)whp. The stock turbo on the top end WILL be the limiting factor, we just don’t know how much yet.

Are you talking about just tune alone or with supporting mods like CAI/DP&FP/exhaust?

I don’t want to replace my stock clutch so early if the numbers are over 400whp/400wtq......

 

[Dragnet]

Are you talking about just tune alone or with supporting mods like CAI/DP&FP/exhaust?

I don’t want to replace my stock clutch so early if the numbers are over 400whp/400wtq......

Why would you not want to replace the clutch? Are you thinking the stock one could handle the power for a while before needing to be replaced?

 

[Tim818]

Why would you not want to replace the clutch? Are you thinking the stock one could handle the power for a while before needing to be replaced?

Pretty much

 

[TypeRinATL]

Are you talking about just tune alone or with supporting mods like CAI/DP&FP/exhaust?

I don’t want to replace my stock clutch so early if the numbers are over 400whp/400wtq......

It *might* be possible to hit those numbers with only a tune, but doubtful.

The good thing with the tune is that you can tailor it to your liking. Just because it can give you an extra 100whp/wtq doesn’t mean you’re required to pull all that power in your tune. You can have different maps from mild to wild.

But yes I’m betting to hit 400whp/wtq we will need supporting mods and the tune. If you want 450+ I feel confident saying you’d need to run e85 or a blend, and/or have wheel upgrades on the stock turbo.

With all that said, these are just educated guesses so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[02SilverSiHB]

With the stock turbo, it is very likely that torque will be higher than horsepower.

Could be true. I noticed on the dyno I have 301hp and 318tq.

 

[shihabp79]

Different fuel over there. I think they have 98 ROM?

98 RON, which is roughly the equivalent of 94 octane.

 

[Dragnet]

Could be true. I noticed on the dyno I have 301hp and 318tq.

Yours is stock? Funny your torque reads higher than your hp.

 

[02SilverSiHB]

Yours is stock? Funny your torque reads higher than your hp.

Just a catback (milltek). I know, crazy

 

[boosted180sx]

Yours is stock? Funny your torque reads higher than your hp.

mine also was higher. It was like 304/316 or something like that.

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