Si 0-60?

[drakenc]

6.3 feels so slow too. Hope it can clock in at 6. The Type R hasn't been revealed yet on its 60 time right? I'm guessing that's probably low 5s.

If 6.3 seconds feels slow to you, then I doubt a few tenths would change your mind.

I wouldn't get your hopes up about the Type R pulling low 5's since it is still FWD. Even the Mazdaspeed 3 only managed 5.7-5.8 at best. FWD Traction and proper launching is always going to be an issue for most real world drivers.

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[drakenc]

I think the Civic Hatchback sport provides a good idea of what to expect as far as acceleration goes. Curb weight, wheel, tire size(and possibly the tire itself) is going to be roughly the same. Just add another 25HP and 15TQ. Only thing I'm not sure of is the difference in gearing, if there is any at all.

I'm more concerned about how the Si is going to pull in the upper ranges with it's peak power sitting at 5700rpms. It's going to feel awfully flat or uneventful when one tries to hit the fuel cut-off at what I assume is around 6700-6800rpms.

 

[zroger73]

I think the Civic Hatchback sport provides a good idea of what to expect as far as acceleration goes. Curb weight, wheel, tire size(and possibly the tire itself) is going to be roughly the same. Just add another 25HP and 15TQ. Only thing I'm not sure of is the difference in gearing, if there is any at all.

Gear and final drive ratios for the manual transmission are identical.

While I don't expect to be blown away by the new Si, I don't think most people will be completely disappointed, either. It is clear the Si is no longer as exclusive as it once was given the lack of a unique powertrain, but that is likely intentional by Honda - they want previous Si buyers to move up to the Type R. The Si now leans more towards being a comfortable daily driver with a somewhat sporty attitude for a reasonable price. The real star of this show is the Type R. For those of us who will never drive around Nürburgring, there's the Si. For those who want something in between the Si and the Type R, there's the ST or GTI.

Hopefully, Honda learned a lesson from the 2012 Civic and won't disappoint too badly with the Si. "Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me."

 

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Hopefully, Honda learned a lesson from the 2012 Civic and won't disappoint too badly with the Si. "Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me."

So true.. we shall soon find out once these reviews start showing up

 

[Design]

I'm expecting around 6.2 - 6.3. But should will make up for it with a higher trap speed in the 1/4.

 

[Beavis519]

Will 192 lb of torque push you back in your seat with a turbo. The only turbo car I've ever been in was a 93 Plymouth laser and it was an amazing feeling when the turbo kicked in. I am a family man who wants a fun daily driver and I am torn between the SI and focus st3. I like the extras such as heated seats and large screen infotainment but want that pushed back in your seat feeling when children aren't in the car

 

[JTilus]

Motor Trend and Car&Driver both managed 6.1 second 0-60mph times in the early (2012-2013) 9th gen Si's. The 10th gen should be able to beat that, as it has a number of advantages over the 9th gen. I realize that performance on paper versus reality isn't the same. So while I think the 10th gen should be faster, we just won't know until it's tested. I think it really depends on whether or not it can reach 60mph in 2nd gear. Guess we'll see in a couple weeks.

 

[zroger73]

Will 192 lb of torque push you back in your seat with a turbo.

If you're used to driving a Ford Transit 350HD van, absolutely - it'll feel like a rocket.
If you're used to driving a Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat, absolutely not - it'll feel like you swallowed a handful of benzos for breakfast.

Every vehicle will "push" you back into your seat with a force proportional to the rate of acceleration. How that "push" feels will be relative to what you're used to. The sounds and vibrations a vehicle produces during acceleration can have a psychological effect on this feeling as well (i.e., an older V8 Mustang with a catback exhaust might feel faster than a silent electric vehicle like a Chevrolet Bolt despite the latter being faster).

For me, it takes about 350-400 HP with a weight of 3,500 lbs. or less before a vehicle feels "fast", but that's because my baseline is driving vehicles with 200-300 HP.

 

[Evolution999]

If you're used to driving a Ford Transit 350HD van, absolutely - it'll feel like a rocket.
If you're used to driving a Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat, absolutely not - it'll feel like you swallowed a handful of benzos for breakfast.

Every vehicle will "push" you back into your seat with a force proportional to the rate of acceleration. How that "push" feels will be relative to what you're used to. The sounds and vibrations a vehicle produces during acceleration can have a psychological effect on this feeling as well (i.e., an older V8 Mustang with a catback exhaust might feel faster than a silent electric vehicle like a Chevrolet Bolt despite the latter being faster).

For me, it takes about 350-400 HP with a weight of 3,500 lbs. or less before a vehicle feels "fast", but that's because my baseline is driving vehicles with 200-300 HP.

agreed, you need at least 300 ftlb torque and traction to get any worthwhile push feeling

I dont get any 'push' from my z but i get a little from my evo

 

[warrendeath]

Anyone made comparisons to the previous generation Civic in terms of weight, power, and its 0-60 speed? I'm guessing 6 seconds even.

 

[skycrapper]

Motor Trend and Car&Driver both managed 6.1 second 0-60mph times in the early (2012-2013) 9th gen Si's. The 10th gen should be able to beat that, as it has a number of advantages over the 9th gen. I realize that performance on paper versus reality isn't the same. So while I think the 10th gen should be faster, we just won't know until it's tested. I think it really depends on whether or not it can reach 60mph in 2nd gear. Guess we'll see in a couple weeks.

The 12-13 Si also pulled a 14.6-14.7 bone stock. They added weight and 18" wheels in 14-15. Despite a few more ponies, it still had a slightly slower time around 15.0. Hopefully this gen will pull better times. Mid to low 6s would be nice with a 1/4 of 14.5 or under. It's 2017

 

[kritz]

If you're used to driving a Ford Transit 350HD van, absolutely - it'll feel like a rocket.
If you're used to driving a Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat, absolutely not - it'll feel like you swallowed a handful of benzos for breakfast.

Every vehicle will "push" you back into your seat with a force proportional to the rate of acceleration. How that "push" feels will be relative to what you're used to. The sounds and vibrations a vehicle produces during acceleration can have a psychological effect on this feeling as well (i.e., an older V8 Mustang with a catback exhaust might feel faster than a silent electric vehicle like a Chevrolet Bolt despite the latter being faster).

For me, it takes about 350-400 HP with a weight of 3,500 lbs. or less before a vehicle feels "fast", but that's because my baseline is driving vehicles with 200-300 HP.

The Hayabusa effect

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a33503/the-hayabusa-effect-is-real/

 

[Beavis519]

Well I currently drive a Toyota estima (minivan while livIng in Japan) and stateside I own a corolla. "Fastest" car I ever owned was a Sentra spec v so I'm sure an SI will seem like a viper to me lol

 

[zroger73]

The Hayabusa effect

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a33503/the-hayabusa-effect-is-real/

Indeed! I remember when I was kid and snuck out for a drive around the block in our new, gold Ford Escort wagon while my parents were out visiting friends. Oh, what an adrenaline rush that was! I found a dirt road in the neighborhood, drove down it a short distance, make sure nobody was looking, then planted the flimsy accelerator pedal to the floor. That little 1.6L "high output" engine buzzed violently as it transferred most of it's 80 HP and 88 lb-ft of torque to one of the 13" front wheels. The sound of rocks and dirt being slung up against the wheel well was almost too intoxicating for my 13 year-old brain to process as the car "rocketed" down the trail. After the euphoric combination of fear, bravery, adrenaline, and pleasure had peaked, I drove back into the garage and precisely placed the keys back into my mom's purse. I don't think I'll ever experience anything as exciting again.

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