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  1. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    Hey guys, To finish this juicy story, I'm going to wrap it up. After all the sketchiness of this dealer, I ended up finding a 2017 Toyota 86 on autotrader from another dealership with 32,000km that had just put up their ad. I ended putting an offer for the car for 1500k less, for a total of...
  2. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    I see... All good points. But you think this is still a risk considering it checked out fine otherwise by my mechanic?
  3. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    True but I made the mistake of contacting the manager for information yesterday. Now, they know for sure I'm interested..... This is car has redeeming qualities, under 25k KM, 2016. Everything else in this price range is either way earlier model year or double the KM.
  4. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    I'm still thinking about it. Other than the fact that these guys are not very pleasant, the mechanic told me that it was fine otherwise. I'm still waiting for them to contact me a full day later.. If they don't contact me by the weekend, I'll just leave the reviews they deserve. Don't know if I...
  5. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    repost: I don't care. Guys, update on on my car buy. Today I had the Scion FR-S in for a 3rd party inspection finally. The salesman came in 15 minutes late to the appointment. Finally inspection started and then, they found some minor issues: 1. When the original coilovers were put back...
  6. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    For my uses, they can be compared. I'm not going to the track everyday nor an autocross all the time. The FR layout 86 can be daily driven here because it doesn't snow much in Vancouver. I wouldn't use all the cargo space, passenger seating of the civic much but it would be useful in certain...
  7. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    Thank you for your offer. I am in Vancouver. They did bring down the price to what I wanted and removed the documentation fee (we'll see though when I actually get there). It's funny because they lowered the price for everyone though, not just for me. Saving face? Who knows.
  8. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    Hey guys, just an update but I did throw an offer out for a FR-S. Around $500 below asking price and I asked to cut the documentation fee almost in half. The guy responded with "we don't take offers on pre-owned vehicles". Have you guys heard of this before?!!
  9. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    Wow, so many good responses. Thank you guys. I went to test drive the FR-S as I noted before. I'm sure you guys already understand this but man, the dealership is an experience. The whole time, this salesman was overly fake friendly but when I asked him if I could get a 3rd party inspection...
  10. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    I did test drive the FRS a couple days ago. Quite a fun car but I understand it being small. I am coming from a 2007 Yaris so the size/lack of interior finesse isn't bothering me yet and I am short at 5'5. It's good to know the Civic can LFB with the pedal dance. For both cars, the only mods...
  11. Civic SI vs 86/FRS/BRZ again..

    Hello all, I am off to buy a "new" used car and I am currently looking at a Civic Si or a Scion FRS (both 2016ish). I know this topic has been covered before but I am asking more specific questions. I was actually leaning heavily towards the Civic given it's driveability, creature comforts...


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