Navigation is definitely a moot point. Every person nowaday has a smartphone. But I don't understand why they didn't offer it as an option when they did for the past 8th/9th gens. I guess it just didn't sell well or assumed it won't sell well with how much smartphones have taken over.
Yup. People probably want the 2.0t because the 1.5t is offered in the regular civics. If they weren't, there would be less people complaining about the fact that the SI didn't get the 2.0t
I can understand Honda not wanting to make the 1.5T exclusive to the Civic Si since it wouldn't be economical for only one vehicle to use that engine. However, every 2017 CR-V uses that engine and most 2018 Accords will use that engine - there's a half a million each year in those two vehicles alone. The majority of Civic sales are LX, LX-P, and EX trims which don't even have the 1.5T.
That's true. Your right majority of the civic sales would be the more "base" trims anyways. but don't forget about the hatchbacks that only comes with a 1.5tI can understand Honda not wanting to make the 1.5T exclusive to the Civic Si since it wouldn't be economical for only one vehicle to use that engine. However, every 2017 CR-V uses that engine and most 2018 Accords will use that engine - there's a half a million each year in those two vehicles alone. The majority of Civic sales are LX, LX-P, and EX trims which don't even have the 1.5T.
The 9th Si used the Accord/CR-V engine - just like it does now, but the 9th non-Si Civic used the same 1.8L engine in every trim - unlike the 10th Civic. So, I still blame Honda for putting too much engine in the EX-T and above.
I see very few Civic hatchbacks in my area, but I realize that's not very scientific since they're hard to see behind all the lifted trucks and oversized SUVs.That's true. Your right majority of the civic sales would be the more "base" trims anyways. but don't forget about the hatchbacks that only comes with a 1.5t
It would be nice to see hatchback sales broken down.
Maybe the solution should have been to put the K24 into the Si, such as it is found in the ILX.That's true. Your right majority of the civic sales would be the more "base" trims anyways. but don't forget about the hatchbacks that only comes with a 1.5t
Although I have a supercharged K24, I don't think a K24 in the 10th gen would've been a good idea. It is already a tried and true motor but other competitors are going turbo so it didn't make sense imo for them to keep the NA motor. Once you add modifications to it, the gap is just going to widen even more because it is far easier for cars with boost to make more power. Sure you can add boost to the K24 but now you have to look at smog issues and having to "remove/install" or finding someone can become tiring over the years.
I really like the ILX. It works well for my commute but they suffer in sales because they still have the image of basically an overpriced civic si with an Acura badge. The new refreshed ILX will probably come with the 1.5t and maybe offer a MT which might increase their sales.
As good as the K24 was, its time is up. Honda couldn't have achieved the fuel economy numbers or flat, low torque curve of the 1.5T.
I agree with this; i wonder why the ILX has the K24 still
For the same reason the 2017 Accord still uses the K24: The ILX is "old". Assuming there is a next-generation ILX, it'll probably use the 1.5T and almost certainly will no longer use the K24.
Yes.
The 2013-current ILX is based on 9th gen Civic.
ah, thought both models got the new design.Yes.
