any update on this? how did the install go?Yeah, just received my kit in the mail today. Going to have to figure out a few things with the lines because I have the PRL flex fuel on my R. Also, going to need to figure out where to get the signal wire from that flex fuel kit so I can tap into it for the Split Second Controller to read the ethanol content.
Once I get this up and running I will do a stock turbo test and see what kind of power it puts down before moving on.
If anyone already has the answer to my questions above... please chime in.
Cheers.
Just to clarify I am using the Radium Port injection kit.
Well .... because of me running a PRL flex fuel kit with this I had to make a lot of my own custom lines. Also, when running straight E85 I had to modify the pump, move the Venturi jet to the return, add a radium saddle style pick up and modify bucket quite a bit to support my needs.any update on this? how did the install go?
No worries! I'm looking into PI on 93 pump. i'd love a motec but that price is killing me esp since i wouldn't be able to tune it myself. UR has everything to set up PI but i still need to do more research since this would be the first time going PIWell .... because of me running a PRL flex fuel kit with this I had to make a lot of my own custom lines. Also, when running straight E85 I had to modify the pump, move the Venturi jet to the return, add a radium saddle style pick up and modify bucket quite a bit to support my needs.
The Split Second has been a bit difficult to get 100%. Pump gas... no problems.... E85 blends open up a whole different can of worms as it wants to fight with the Hondata over who gets to supply the fuel.
Honestly, just get a Motech and add the additional injectors. LOL
The difference right now between 93pump and full E85 is about 60-70whp.
Been busy at work lately and haven't had a chance to post.
Sorry.
If you think Motech will be difficult ..... a Split Second Box is way worse. Also, UR's Bin file for the SS controller is not perfect and will require a bit of tuning + the addition of a few new calibrations and breakpoints.No worries! I'm looking into PI on 93 pump. i'd love a motec but that price is killing me esp since i wouldn't be able to tune it myself. UR has everything to set up PI but i still need to do more research since this would be the first time going PI
I thought the same but ~2k for the PI (let's say another generous 2k in professional tuning) so for 4k I should be set. That's almost still 50% cheaper than a motec ECU which I would still need a professional tune and still need to upgrade the fuel system.If you think Motech will be difficult ..... a Split Second Box is way worse. Also, UR's Bin file for the SS controller is not perfect and will require a bit of tuning + the addition of a few new calibrations and breakpoints.
I'd offer my file as a starting point but I can't.... I don't own the file. Out of respect thats my tuner's property.
I would try not to look at the dollars and just look at what will ultimately cause less issues long term. The PI like I am running .... well there is maybe 3-4 people doing this and not many answers for some of the road blocks you will face. Make note your still going to need a Hondata or Ktuner to pair with it.I thought the same but ~2k for the PI (let's say another generous 2k in professional tuning) so for 4k I should be set. That's almost still 50% cheaper than a motec ECU which I would still need a professional tune and still need to upgrade the fuel system.
Again I've never messed around with PI or Motec so that's kinda over my head. Maybe I'm missing something? I'm seriously a noob on both those topics.
well said about the the outcome vs $. I already have the Ktuner and will be FBO in the near future (all PRL parts are already ordered but all back ordered) which is also why i haven't entertained the idea of switching to Hondata with the Fuel system. i also plan to have my motor built and put in the upcoming PRL P600 turbo. Built motor would be next on the list then Turbo/fuel upgrade (unless i can safely use it on the stock fuel set up but i'm dubious about that) but this is all maybe 12mths out but wanted to start looking into now. granted the easiest way would be Motec with the PI upgrade and let Motec handle everything. but 6k+ for a motec or 6k+ for a built motor, i guess thats really want i'm debating on.I would try not to look at the dollars and just look at what will ultimately cause less issues long term. The PI like I am running .... well there is maybe 3-4 people doing this and not many answers for some of the road blocks you will face. Make note your still going to need a Hondata or Ktuner to pair with it.
Motech does offer DI and PI controls without any additional controllers from my knowledge.
But If you are just staying pump... why not go with the Hondata fuel upgrade? That will make you the same numbers as a external PI system unless your planning on a big turbo. Stock or stock upgraded turbos both will receive plenty of fueling from Hondata's setup with no E85.
Not trying to talk you out of PI..... its on hell of a mod and will give you more fuel than you will ever need. One day I plan to go with a built block and bigger turbo though... so I could justify it for myself.
See if you can gets Derek's opinion at InnovativeMotorWorks. He has tune a lot of different setups on the R and can guide you to what best suits your needs.
Bandaids only last so long.. is going to be a lot more when that SS box fails and your injectors shut off during a pull.I thought the same but ~2k for the PI (let's say another generous 2k in professional tuning) so for 4k I should be set. That's almost still 50% cheaper than a motec ECU which I would still need a professional tune and still need to upgrade the fuel system.
Now thats not a completely true statement and I can elaborate as to why...Bandaids only last so long.. is going to be a lot more when that SS box fails and your injectors shut off during a pull.