TPMS issues - Type R

  1. VashR547

    VashR547 Senior Member

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    Hey guys,

    I've had my type R for about 3 months now. The most annoying thing so far has been my TPMS light constantly turning on.

    Since owning the car its come on about 12 times. Every time has been a false alarm and only lost 1-3 PSI all around.

    I know this is a common issue, I know it has to do with the OEM tire and wheel set up.

    I would like to know if someone has done something to help remedy this (without replacing wheels).

    What if I calibrated the tires while they were 6 PSI lower than specification? Then filled them to the correct pressure and only get notified when it reached 6 or more PSI below..
     
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    Mine used to do it all the time. Now that I replaced my old oem tires with ps4s tires I haven't gotten anymore annoying tpms errors. I am still using the oem wheels.
     
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    NICE! Thats exactly my plan!
    Nice to hear that there was some improvement by just switching tires.

    Thanks for the response!
     
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    try using a nitrogen fill. air is unstable to temperatures compared to nitrogen it will maintain consistent pressure. lower profile tires may be triggering tpm. I keep a few nitrogen tanks in rotation at home and get it refilled at my local wielding supply, my tpm triggered when I purchased the the car, bleed and refill with nitrogen and it's not beed triggered again at more 14K miles. stock tires.
     
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    My R struggles with the same thing. However, the TMPS light will only come on after driving for 2-3 hours (not during short trips). This has happened in every of my long drive recently. I am currently running 18 inch Enkei with Michelin PS3 all season tires. My OEM tires had the same problem as well.

    My local dealer did a "master TPMS reset" in April, and guess what? I did another trip in May and the light came right on. So you know when dealer tells you about the "master TPMS reset", it's no better than hose sh*t !! :)
     
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    Do you still have the same problem with the new rim and tire set up?

    I get my randomly. Could be an hour long drive or a 15 min spin.
     
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    Recalibrate TPMS three times in a row to reset it. Mine was going off frequently until I did this and hasn’t given a warning since.
     
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    The procedure in the manual specifies that the tires be cold. So what I do when my TPMS sensors go off is stop by the gas station on the way home. I make sure I don't have a low tire and then air them all up by 5 lbs or so. Then I let my car sit overnight in the garage. When it is time to go to work in the morning, I air the front tires down to 35 and back tires down to 33 psi. Then I do the calibration and then drive the 25 miles to work. That works for me the majority of the time.

    That was with the stock tires as well as Pirelli P Zero and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S that I went up a size on the stock rims - P245/35/R20. The extra side wall is great for my daily driving and the grip puts the stock tires to shame.
     
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    :agree:

    This is the correct answer. TPMS in these cars has a more complicated algorithm and recalibrating 3 times will reset the algorithm.
     
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    ^^^^^^^this
    Been there...Done that...Didn't even get a Tee shirt. Cold(overnight) tires, air up to factory recommendations, reset three times with pause in between. No problem since and it's been months. Hope Honda drops this system like they did in the past!
     
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    The Honda Indirect TPMS system does not care what your tire pressures are, as long as they are the same (or close), in all 4 Tires.
    So, in practice, to detect low tire pressure, it only really works well, if only one tire starts going flat, and that wheels outside tire diameter changes.

    USA law requires newer car to have some sort of Tire Monitoring system -- the Indirect system is by far the Cheapest solution to meet the current USA laws, so that what you get on "economy" cars like the Honda Civic.

    If you want to cut down on these false alarm issues, then RE-Filling the tires with Nitrogen goes a long way to help stabilize their pressures.

    My SI tires are Nitrogen filled, but I consider the Honda INDIRECT TMPS to not provide me with information I want on the pressure conditions of my tires, so I fitted an aftermarket DIRECT TPMS system, with external sensors. (Cheaper than internal sensors)> The whole system, was less that $30, and since fitting, I always know the tire pressure (and Temperature) of each tire - in real time, and after almost a year, I have never had a HONDA TPMS alarm, and I have never had my tires loose pressure.

    I do see the pressure after rest (in the morning) at an acceptable level, and when I drive hard & fast, I see the tires warm up, and the pressure increase, typically evenly across all the tires.. so there should be no reason for the Honda Indirect system to Alarm, and it does not, as expected.

    For less than $30, I consider an aftermarket Backup DIRECT TPMS to be a good mod/ accessory addition.

    prototype_mockup_TPMS_OIl.jpg
     
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    Both air and nitrogen behave close enough to the ideal gases at the temps and pressures you'll see in your tires. Nitrogen isn't going to be any more stable than air because the same number of moles of gas are in the tire either way. Pressure will be directly proportional to temperature.

    PV = nRT

    P = (nR/V)T
     
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    This worked for me too. No problems since!
     
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