The Oil Thread

  1. hawk02

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    Also largely due to the fuel dilution of the 0w20 oil, full synthetic or not. I will not go beyond 5000, for the time and cost to do it why would i
     
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    What's so hard to understand about an oil analysis that shows my AMSOIL is protecting the engine perfectly and is still well within spec at 10,000mi? With my analysis reports, I'd be an idiot to change it out before 10,000 miles because it's still doing it's job perfectly. I have proof that I could easily go past 10k intervals if I wanted to.

    It's not 1980 any more. Oils don't break down after 3,000 miles anymore. Get with the times.

    Everybody is blowing this fuel dilution thing out of proportion. The reports are showing that the fuel IS NOT affecting the viscosity of quality synthetics. Other than it sounding scary, can you prove that the fuel is harming the oil/engine?
     
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    #318 David Harper, Jul 17, 2018
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    no, you are an idiot for not changing it out sooner. like I said...................
    you're not capable of DIY. That's OK. Nothing to be ashamed of.
    It doesn't mean you're a wimp. It really doesn't.
    Amsoil is snake oil
     
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    Well seeing Honda is recalling 1.5t vehicles in other countries for it I don't have to prove anything, it will start being a problem soon enough.
     
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    Very civil of you.

    I have actual proof that what I'm doing is perfectly safe for my car.
    https://www.civicx.com/threads/oil-analysis-database.21607/#post-364703

    I know about the recall, but there is a lot of political/legal stuff behind recalls that most people don't realize. I will keep analyzing my oil and KNOW for certain that my engine is still good. If the fuel was affecting the oil, the viscosity would be way out of spec (it isn't) and wear metals/silicon would be high from the block/head and seals breaking down (they aren't).

    Look at Samsung and the Note 7 thing. A few people said their phones were "blowing up" so Samsung set up a testing room where they tested thousands of phones from every batch by over charging the batter 10x the amperage in a 200°f room. They could not recreate the failure, but they still recalled and stop sale all Note 7 phones because hundreds of thousands of people who didn't know anything were freaking out.

    It's easier for a company to do a recall than face public outcry. Honda will probably just do an ECU update that leans out the A:F a bit and there is your "fix".
     
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    Lol, now comparing phones to engines,,,,there's actually hundreds of issues but who's counting. I'll just keep changing my oil at 5000 or less no matter what brand I use
     
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    I'm not comparing phones to engines. I'm comparing giant companies to giant companies.

    Do whatever you want, but stop arguing feelings vs facts. You "feel" like 5000 is better. You "feel" like the fuel is an issue.

    I know it isn't. I have scientific proof.
     
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    lmao don't hurt his feelings

    /s

    on topic: anyone following the MM to the T and doing analysis?
     
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    I probably went about 1500 over, and I went 5800 miles on the FF or virgin auto oil that the MMS wanted out by 4200 miles. I did this for the extra moly, and since then I go by the minder and use elite 0w-20 (no need to mention full synthetic since all 0w-20s are full syn)
     
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    Not all 0w-20 oils are a true full synthetic oil though. Some claim to be, but are not a group IV oil. Only group IV and higher oils are a true fully synthetic oil.
     
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    you're right. my apologies.
     
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    #327 Slickone, Jul 28, 2018
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    The Honda oil is "good enough" , obviously, but if you want to try something better than what Honda rebadges, and maybe easier to purchase, get Pennzoil Platinum. The viscosity rating is in your owners manual, or on the oil cap. Amsoil is rated at a higher mileage interval than PP, but also costs twice(?) as much, and you likely won't be taking the interval to PP's max mileage anyway, much less Amsoil's. Personally, since the Civic MIGHT have a fuel/oil dilution issue, I wouldn't go over the MM until there's some conclusion or fix made.

    This person did a UOA of PP, M1, and Amsoil:
    https://www.impalassforum.com/vBull...l-1-vs-pennzoil-ultra-platinum-vs-amsoil.html
     
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    I read an article back during that time that said every phone model has had at least one blow up.
     
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    so Pennzoil Platinum is the best oil to use in the 1.5t?
     
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    Ultra Platinum is the one to use if you use pennzoil, it is rebottled Shell Helix Ultra from Europe, Ferrari factory fill along with a few other high end cars. Great prices on Amazon!!!!!
     
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