Si vs GTI vs N

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    Last winter I was in the debate on buying a gti or si. I wanted the gti but the price was way too much. To get a lsd and the adaptive suspension you were looking at 10k+ extra for the car. Had to be the autobahn edition. I'm not crazy about the styling on the Hyundais even though I knew the N had a lot of r&d go into it and I planned on going to the track. The si has been perfect. Reliable and fun, cheap on matinence, and the best looking of the 3(si coupe). I'd do it again if I had the same options. Actually wanted the Audi S3 but they dont have a manual and matinence is too much $$.
     
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    Now that you can get a manual GTI SE w/ adaptive suspension and Fender audio, for like $29k discounted, it's pretty attractive. Same for the Jetta Autobahn at $26k.

    Agree the coupe is the best looking body style - don't like the look of the sedan, even in Si form.
     
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    Did they run real instrumental testing for the acceleration or was it just based on their butt feeling?
     
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    Im surprise by the result of this comparo. Actually based on all the face to face that i have seen comparing the GTI to the SI, this is the one where the SI performed best
     
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    I'm staying away from the Hyundai dealer cause if I test drove one of those I'd probably want it. GTI is the more practical, sensible choice for me. Problem is I've driven a MkVII GTI like 5 times, and it doesn't make you say "Oh I gotta have this!"
     
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    They did and this was the result: 0-60

    N: 5.9 seconds
    GTI: 6.4 seconds
    Si: 6.8 seconds

    They said something along the lines of "the Si doesnt feel out of pace here even with it's lower HP numbers, that can be attributed to its almost 400 lbs less of mass compared to the GTI"

    Makes sense, the GTI was a manual and the 2nd gear goes way past 60mph so you only have to shift once, the Si you have to shift twice to 60mph..if gearing were longer the Si might have tied the GTI to 60, .4 seconds difference could be attributed to that second shift.
     
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    The problem with this comparo is that the N is a middle child... doesn’t compete with the Honda CTR and is a little above the Si and GTI. Not really a fair comparison. No, the N line Elantra would be a closer comparison to the Si. That being said, I’ve smoked every Elantra N that I’ve encountered.
     
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    Thank you for the info
    I agree for the second shift before 60 although the Hp advantage of the GTI and N give them the advantage above 60 mph as the trap speed at the end of the 1/4 mile shows
     
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    2017 GTI (Manual):
    0-60: 5.9 seconds
    1/4 mile: 14.6 seconds @ 100mph

    2017 Si:
    0-60: 6.3 seconds
    1/4 mile: 14.8 seconds @ 96mph

    You can see the same .4 second difference to 60mph, again I suspect because of the second shift..the Si closes the gap a bit in the quarter mile. The GTI traps higher but not by much. Even though the GTI is the faster car, I can see why one wouldn't feel it with the butt dyno.
     
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    That’s why I said DSG is king!

    Whenever I saying my GTI was faster and better overall I had a DSG which makes an average driver like my self have perfect launches everytime. And if you turn off the traction control the wheels don’t spin to much before pulling you forward super hard. Especially with stickier rubber.

    I haven’t driven the manual enough to really have a great comparison but would probably lean towards Si just from the few 100 miles I’ve driven the GTI Manual.
     
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    Can't believe a stock Si is doing 0-60 in 6.3 seconds. Heck I can't believe how quick my Sport is.

    I wonder how Subaru is doing with their 9 second Imprezas?
     
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