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It took ford about 4 years, so I figured Honda would be about the same. They'll get there.Sooner or later Honda will figure this out. My bet is on later.
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It took ford about 4 years, so I figured Honda would be about the same. They'll get there.Sooner or later Honda will figure this out. My bet is on later.
It took ford about 4 years, so I figured Honda would be about the same. They'll get there.
Sync v3, the MFT replacement, supposedly has built-in 3G capability to check/download/update its own updates overnight. Hopefully, for Sync3 owners, they issue updates that actually fix a lot more stuff than they break. With MFT Gen2, while we had it, the ratio of stuff fixed to new problems introduced was perilously close to 1:1 with every single update. What a PoS.For a while there a few years ago I thought Ford was heading that direction with the Sync system but nothing much changed.
Comparing this long document to the OP's shortened one --Sorry for the late post guys, I had to do some running around, but here is the pdf for the bulletin,
the money is the first couple of pages, the rest are just instructions.
Yea I haven't really followed the progression of the Sync system too much. I just came from an '07 Focus so obviously this is the most technologically "complex" care I've owned or used..... maybe with the exception of a homebrew "Car PC" using a mobile form factor PC running windows hooked to a touchscreen I had built years ago for our SUV.Sync v3, the MFT replacement, supposedly has built-in 3G capability to check/download/update its own updates overnight. Hopefully, for Sync3 owners, they issue updates that actually fix a lot more stuff than they break. With MFT Gen2, while we had it, the ratio of stuff fixed to new problems introduced was perilously close to 1:1 with every single update. What a PoS.
Spot on. Top to bottom.I can make some guesses:
Yup, very good post. Can't argue with any of that. Except to say that in the near future (5-10 yrs), when teslas and other electrics are more common, and there's more integration of everything with the "internet of things", every car company is going to have to eventually switch to some sort of OTA model. Whether dealers like it or not.I can make some guesses:
- Dealers outrage. Requiring owners to bring their car to the shop is good for their business - so they can upsell you on more services, accessories, even a new car! (Even though it is bad for the brand - a classic dilemma. It's also why dealers hate electric vehicles - very little service needs.)
- General software problems. No offense to Honda employees, but I'm going to bet that they're not attracting the top software talent. So their software dev/test processes might be on the weak side. This has a stronger potential for problems. Will they be able to turn around a patch quickly? Probably not.
- Bricking. Let's say that a patch goes catastrophically wrong and your car gets bricked. Who will fix that? The dealer network that you pissed off? And there'd be so many cars to fix. Tesla can get away with this because their target customer is much more forgiving (I know a Tesla customer who couldn't get his car to move. No biggie... he drove his Ferrari to work instead) and they have fewer customers.
- Not everyone has Internet access near their car. People who live buildings will find it difficult... and this may lead to complaints. Not a big deal though - you could just park in front of a starbucks presumably. (Tesla solves this by including 3G I think.) But maybe they're sensitive to this.
None of these are exactly show stoppers... it sounds like from above that Ford has solved this, but it requires a cultural and mindset shift.
As they say, corporate culture eats corporate strategy for breakfast.
Honestly, at this point even if there was OTA, I'm on the fence as to whether I'd be the first to apply a patch to my car looking at Honda's track record!
Been having issues with Car Play on my 2016 Civic Touring sedan I've had for a little over 2 weeks. Primary issue is after plugging in iPhone after starting car, then a few minutes screen says device not connected, disconnect, reconnect, then it shows up. Very frustrating. Called my dealer in San Diego, DCH Honda Mission Valley, inquiring about any possible service bulletins, they claimed there were none, but based on that attachment my VIN number is in the range shown. They did schedule a visit for this Saturday. I'll call them again before showing up.I just went to the dealership this morning because I kept having problems with my radio disconnecting from my iPhone while playing music or in the middle of a call. I was informed by the service manager that just this very same morning Honda released a new service bulletin regarding known problems with the radio unit. I've attached a photo of the printout. I was told that I should check back in a few weeks and hope that Honda has rolled out recall or some kind of repair.
Comparing this long document to the OP's shortened one --
Did they find a problem with the installation procedure and then issue the "do not install" directive?
- Both are Service Bulletin 16-022
- Both say "03585 Version 1"
- The long document with the installation instructions is dated May 4.
- The short document that says "do not install" is dated May 5 -- after the long document.
That's true. We have a neighbor that took her 2014 CR-V in for an oil change last year and came home with a new 2015 CR-V!I can make some guesses:
- Dealers outrage. Requiring owners to bring their car to the shop is good for their business - so they can upsell you on more services, accessories, even a new car! ...