Scotty says "Buy the 2.0 Civic over the Turbo".

  1. saz468

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    I like watching Scotty’s videos he’s a older mechanic they usually don’t like turbocharged cars like my older brother he’s also a mechanic my brother also said that the newer turbocharged cars will last long as long as you keep it well maintained and use synthetic oil . His wife had a 2003 VW Jetta TDI with 200,000 miles on it the turbo was still in good condition but the transmission lasted for 140,000 before it was rebuilt ( I know diesel are different then gas ) but Scotty’s videos are pretty good
     
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    #47 Gruber, Feb 23, 2019
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    Scotty’s advice is not directed at car enthusiasts. Not even at car forum regulars. Not at luxury car aficionados. Definitely not for ricers or racers. Not for drivers who want to pass everyone on the road or have the biggest car on the road. And not for brand fans and collectors.

    Scotty says clearly “I’m cheap and I want my cars to last forever”. His advice is for the majority of owners who only want reliable transportation. For those people his advice is excellent.
     
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    So we have four pages of comments based on a guy saying he'd buy a 2.0 over the 1.5 cause it will last longer? He might be right. But are we talking 250,000 miles versus 225,000 miles?

    And even if he's right, the turbo gives more smiles per mile, and for me, that's every bit as important. :)
     
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    we are drifting off topic somewhat but the R-1800 engine produced between 700-1350hp depending on the model. Cruise RPM was about 2300, with red-line about 2700. That’s not far off from where the 1.5 spends most if it’s time.

    Newer airplane engines are Largely Aluminum, although there are some Magnesium blocks in use. Typical life between overhauls is 1800-2500 hours. If it’s in regular commercial operations, that’s 3-5 years. Older radials were based on its condition, but it if they went 1000 hours, that was good. This is due to lubrication issues with the upper and lower cylinders.

    Typically, in a new engine it’s not the Aluminum components that get replaced, it’s usually the steel rings, piston liners, and valves and Sometimes the piston itself.

    There’s no significant difference between engine life in turbo vs. non-turbo versions of the same engine, but the overhaul is a bit more expensive.
     
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    This here, above, is the answer.
    As people get older (scotty) they want simple and reliable. Where I live Its freaking "toyota Camry city" or its variant in Lexus form.
    Also, older technology with fewer part "in theory" is more reliable because less thing can go wrong. Should we go back to carburatos or throttle body..it runs on 30 psi f.p.
    Yes Direct injection is better, Turbo is free power from waste product - burned hot expanding gas-> spinning wheel-> jamming oxygen molecules into the intake. We get more power with smaller displacment, smaller lighter moving parts.
    His video is a f..ng click bait
     
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    Another Toyota proponent. Honda gets an honorary mention.
     
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    We all want reliability but I don't want dull in my car. For the most part, Toyota has been dull. They're working on it, but have a long way to go in the excitement department. They're the white bread of cars. Functional, usable, popular, but nothing special.
     
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    Yeah that's why Toyota is quickly trying to change that image. With their Camry/Avalon TRD, and the new Corolla they're trying to convince people their cars are "fun". But the only car i'd buy from them right now is the 4Runner, I seriously love that car. It's part of a dying breed of body on frame off-road suv's, has insane resale value, and will last 300K+ miles without an issue and it looks great too. Not to mention that if you install a $5600 magnuson supercharger kit on it, it still retains it's factory warranty and makes almost 400 WHP. I'd buy one but I can't justify buying a 4th car not to mention the fact that my wallet probably wouldn't agree with it either lol.
     
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    #55 repeet, Feb 23, 2019
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    Bought my 'Vette when I was 35 and sold it when I was 50. Replaced it with a Prelude. Bought my Si at age 62. Handles just as good as my '85 vette in the corners and once you get it going, feels just as quick. Of course nothing can beat a RWD large displacement V8 "out of the hole".
     
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    You know what Honda needs to make but never will? A RWD Prelude with a biturbo V6, LSD and a DCT.
     
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    Hey, he could be right. The 2.0 may last longer. So far I have almost 63,000 miles, not modded and it is still running perfect in every way.
     
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    They won't because they don't need to.
     
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    Damn nice, and yeah nothing beats the instant torque of a V8 off the line. I seriously love corvettes especially the C7 generation. They are seriously good value for money as far as sports cars go and I honestly consider one once If I could justify a Corvette. I've owned sport-y cars like my 6 MT Acura TL Type S and even my current M550i but never a purpose built sports car, one of my goals is to buy one in the near future and it has to be a manual, seriously miss rowing my own gears. I wouldn't even mind an Si but I like the convinience of a CVT or auto when in bumper to bumper traffic.
     
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