Refreshed 2020 Honda Civic Si

  1. grumpyguy6

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    #1 grumpyguy6, Aug 22, 2019
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    Damn it.

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/updated-2020-honda-civic-si-priced-msrp-starting-price

    Highlights (or, in my case, low points):
    • 6-percent shorter final-drive ratio for more responsive acceleration
    • Si now comes standard with Honda Sensing, which bundles together lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control, collision mitigation braking with forward collision warning, road departure mitigation with lane departure warning, and automatic high beams
    • Si coupe and sedan get new multi-element LED lamps with a wider and longer light beam, as well as new LED foglights
    • On the sedan, Honda updated the rear bumper with gloss black trim and body-color crossbars to match the front end.
    • Every Civic Si now sits on new matte black 18-inch wheels.
    • New sport seats with red accents
    • New red trim for the instrument panel

    My opinion based on my own 2017 Si:
    • I really like the red added to the seats, and the red trim around the dash
    • Sorta jealous about the LED's
      • However, I am VERY content with my Morimoto Elite HID lows and LED fogs
    • A little jealous about the black wheels from factory
      • However, I like the style of my stock wheels and I've already plastidipped them black, so kind of a wash there
    • Not sure how I feel about the "refreshed" grilles
    • Still jealous about the climate control options without having to dick around with the touchscreen
      • However, I did swap out my dual zone climate control for fan speed, so at least I have that going for me
    • Still Extremely jealous of the audio functions on the 2019+
    Overall, I think that if I were getting the itch for a new car I would probably trade my 2017 Si for a 2020 Si, but at this point I'm just going to keep piling the mileage on her (already at 41k), until either a.) I time/mileage out of my extended warranty, finally do a tune, and start enjoying it all over again with 20-30 extra hp; or b.) my wife caves in and lets me trade it in for a new Wrangler (ironic, as I traded a Wrangler to get the Si). I have a pretty good feeling that I'll have 200-300k on it well before option b happens ;)
     
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    im really fucking pissed... why didnt we at least get the LEDs on our 2019s?
     
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    My opinion based on my own 2019 Si:
    • Don’t like the red trim. The red stitching and SI logo on my seats are perfect, the extra red is too much. I also feel that the red on the new seats could clash with other exterior colors.
    • Sorta jealous about the LED'a. (SAME)
    • Love that Honda gave the SI a new set of rims that are only for the SI. Hate that I share a set with the Civic Sport.
    • Not a fan of the new bumper inserts.
    • Love my climate control. :love:
    • Love my volume knob! :headbang:
     
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    #4 maggs_10thgen, Aug 22, 2019
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    I'm pretty pissed too. I've had my 2019 for about 2 weeks with only like 600 miles on it. The salesman told me there were no differences coming for the 2020. Except for optional accessories. I'm thinking he was just BSing to get the car off the lot. I already reached out to him on trading this thing in.

    I could care less about those ugly ass bumper inserts and the red seats. But the LEDs, sensing, rims and final drive are a big deal imo. Worst case I might just cop the black rims.. I like the fact they only come on the Si and give it more of a sporty look. Even though the 17-19 are very nice too.
     
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    of course the salesman was lying to you, he was trying to sell u a car lmao.. and theres also the possibility he didnt know because most idiot car salespeople dont know shit.

    i dont like those stupid inserts in the vents, but i do like the red on the seats.

    they should have made all these changes in the 2019s (minus the vent inserts).
     
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    meh....don't care for most of the changes.

    Things I like:
    new style rims, climate controls....yup that's it.

    Things I don't like:
    the new styling on the bumper honeycombs
    the red stitching on the seats and the red accents on the dash

    Neutral opinion:
    LED headlights. I could take it or leave it, the lights on my '17 work just fine for me.
    The shorter gearing. I feel like they should have lengthened the gearing slightly to eliminate the 3rd shift 0-60. This also should have helped mpg's and 0-60 times. I guess I have to wait for a review to see if it was the right choice for them to make.
    Same power. This should have been a no brainer, up the boost slightly and it could have made an easy 10-15 hp more. It would have looked good on paper.
    Honda sensing and the audio exhaust...I have no need for it and really don't think the Si should have it but for the money it seems worth it. Again we will see how this affects the overall feel of the car.

    Things they should have improved (my opinion):
    The speed of the infotainment
    Bump the power slightly
    Gave the exhaust some actual tone instead of using audio to do it
    Lengthened the overall gearing slightly to eliminate 3rd shift to 60 mph.
    Black out the chrome on the door trim or chrome the whole thing. The half black/half chrome looks silly.
     
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    Come on guy, really?





    Unless this thread is intending to provide a different discussion entirely, we already have a thread dedicated to this. People will lose out on information if it's only going into one thread and people reading the other don't happen to see it.
     
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    We have a thread on the Subaru forums called "my dealer told me"- dont ever believe anything a dealer says. They want to sell you a car today not tomorrow.
     
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    4 threads...time for a mod to merge
     
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    Standard LED headlamps...Nice!
     
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    that front and back end vent change is attrocious, they should be painted black from the factory. Body color paint takes away from the sportiness BIG TIME.
     
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    They still share the same wheel though...I am happy about that because I really did not like Honda doing that same wheel shit on ours. I would have had a real sour taste in my mouth if the 2020 Si had different wheels then the sports. That was pretty much my biggest complaints. All the other gens had different wheels. Yes still pissed about it.

    Well my opinion,
    I like the red on the seats
    I like the red interior accent
    I like the color matched bumper accents (better looking then ours)
    I like our wheels better, but jelly they are standard black for 2020
    LED headlamps...kiss my ass Honda why not do that from the damn beginning
     
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    I like this opinion style thread...

    Don’t enter the thread if you don’t want to respond :dunno:
     
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    Gotta read my post better:

    "Unless this thread is intending to provide a different discussion entirely..."

    The thread title indicates no such thing. Sure, let's have an info thread and discussion thread. The way it stands though, they are just two of the same thing. I wouldn't know which was which from the outside looking in.
     
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    #15 maggs_10thgen, Aug 22, 2019
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    Maybe I'll just keep my brand new 2019 and grab the HFP rims

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    It's a toss up between the 2019 and 2020 stock wheels. The stock rims in the sedan above look good for oem. This JO had to know these changes were coming. Typical sales person I guess.
     
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