MONK13
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- MIKE
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Pulled the trigger on a 27Won Rear Motor Mount. After installation and driving it once for 25 minutes with my wife who didn't know about the install (hint, that's called a control group) or the actual purchase (yeah, already hiding things from the wife - not a good sign, I know).
I chose the 27Won after extensive mediocre research about all the mounts listed on CivicX: Perrin, HardRace, Hasport, Boomba, Type R, Cusco, and several others that I can't recall. Each had their nuances for price, design, stiffness, reliability, installation, support, and warranty. Plus a few unique factors. I also listened to numerous YouTube RMM videos about installation and experiences. Hoping to save you from that chore.
Why the 27Won RMM?
- Wanted maximum stiffness for a street RMM, so 90 Durometer rating (Si Owner)
- Wanted the best installation instructions which included contacting LIVE person if I had a problem.
(mobile app installation was 95% accurate, clear w/ photos & only took 1hr)
- Wanted something in demand in case I needed to replace it with something "softer" ( yeah, I said it).
- Wanted the design to be edgy with the unique characteristic of performance rather than comfort.
(Single Bushing, Shorter Length, Well Machined, Coating & Quote Nice Touches)
- Wanted reliability of product but chose reliability of company
The short & quick answer is you get what you pay for AND you get what you deserve for not doing your due diligence. -- just came up with that...if your impressed, you should stop reading now and read another thread.
After reading all the threads/posts by our community, REPEET had one of the better RMM analysis for his experience which was similar to mine:
https://www.civicx.com/threads/rear-motor-mount.25842/page-4#post-682606
What he may have left out emphasizing was the NVH (Noise, Vibration, Harshness) you experience becomes more apparent if you ever coast your vehicle in neutral or stop at a stop light, the silence is deafening. IF increases of +25 decibel of engine noise (upon acceleration) in the cabin (with stock exhaust/intake) and some rumblings of vibration through the steering wheel, and dash/console interfere with your silence, music playing or comfort, DONT INSTALL A MOTOR MOUNT. But if you are prone to enjoying the sound, feel, and experience of a turbo vehicle then read on...
On first start of my 27Won RMM, I grinned from ear to ear like a Cheshire cat. You couldn't remove that goofy look on my face as I put the car in gear. Yeah, there was some getting to know you rumblings, noises, and vibrations (empty the change out of your console, things will sound MUCH better) but, the experience inside the car was what the little kid in you was thinking when he wished for owning a muscle car.
I played possum for the first 15 minutes of driving being very conservative, feeling the car out, getting to know where the soft, hard, and loud areas of the RPM shift points were located (you should find them yourself, all RMM are different). After stopping for groceries, we headed back with aggressive intent.... I accelerated fast, then faster. Quickly going up through gears 1-4 and back down and then up.... you get the picture. The smile on my face said "my car now feels & sounds like a wild animal". The experience is similar to riding a real horse or even a steel horse (motorcycle for you less informed), you may not get the analogy, but you get the idea. (if you dont get it) Now, the Wife never said anything about the noise, vibration, or the aggressive intent the entire ride. At the stop lights, everything gets VERY noticeably quiet, the silence is noticeable.
I hear the effect is lessened after a break in period...will update/confirm that in a few months.
I can expound about RMM comparisons of price, design, stiffness, reliability, support, installation based on my research...but... if this thread becomes fodder to the community, I 'd rather not waste your time. If its helpful, I will add the info soon.
I chose the 27Won after extensive mediocre research about all the mounts listed on CivicX: Perrin, HardRace, Hasport, Boomba, Type R, Cusco, and several others that I can't recall. Each had their nuances for price, design, stiffness, reliability, installation, support, and warranty. Plus a few unique factors. I also listened to numerous YouTube RMM videos about installation and experiences. Hoping to save you from that chore.
Why the 27Won RMM?
- Wanted maximum stiffness for a street RMM, so 90 Durometer rating (Si Owner)
- Wanted the best installation instructions which included contacting LIVE person if I had a problem.
(mobile app installation was 95% accurate, clear w/ photos & only took 1hr)
- Wanted something in demand in case I needed to replace it with something "softer" ( yeah, I said it).
- Wanted the design to be edgy with the unique characteristic of performance rather than comfort.
(Single Bushing, Shorter Length, Well Machined, Coating & Quote Nice Touches)
- Wanted reliability of product but chose reliability of company
The short & quick answer is you get what you pay for AND you get what you deserve for not doing your due diligence. -- just came up with that...if your impressed, you should stop reading now and read another thread.
After reading all the threads/posts by our community, REPEET had one of the better RMM analysis for his experience which was similar to mine:
https://www.civicx.com/threads/rear-motor-mount.25842/page-4#post-682606
What he may have left out emphasizing was the NVH (Noise, Vibration, Harshness) you experience becomes more apparent if you ever coast your vehicle in neutral or stop at a stop light, the silence is deafening. IF increases of +25 decibel of engine noise (upon acceleration) in the cabin (with stock exhaust/intake) and some rumblings of vibration through the steering wheel, and dash/console interfere with your silence, music playing or comfort, DONT INSTALL A MOTOR MOUNT. But if you are prone to enjoying the sound, feel, and experience of a turbo vehicle then read on...
On first start of my 27Won RMM, I grinned from ear to ear like a Cheshire cat. You couldn't remove that goofy look on my face as I put the car in gear. Yeah, there was some getting to know you rumblings, noises, and vibrations (empty the change out of your console, things will sound MUCH better) but, the experience inside the car was what the little kid in you was thinking when he wished for owning a muscle car.
I played possum for the first 15 minutes of driving being very conservative, feeling the car out, getting to know where the soft, hard, and loud areas of the RPM shift points were located (you should find them yourself, all RMM are different). After stopping for groceries, we headed back with aggressive intent.... I accelerated fast, then faster. Quickly going up through gears 1-4 and back down and then up.... you get the picture. The smile on my face said "my car now feels & sounds like a wild animal". The experience is similar to riding a real horse or even a steel horse (motorcycle for you less informed), you may not get the analogy, but you get the idea. (if you dont get it) Now, the Wife never said anything about the noise, vibration, or the aggressive intent the entire ride. At the stop lights, everything gets VERY noticeably quiet, the silence is noticeable.
I hear the effect is lessened after a break in period...will update/confirm that in a few months.
I can expound about RMM comparisons of price, design, stiffness, reliability, support, installation based on my research...but... if this thread becomes fodder to the community, I 'd rather not waste your time. If its helpful, I will add the info soon.
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