Practical Justifications for the Type R

  1. RedGiant217

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    I was able to "fit" an 8' 2X10 with the hatch closed. Just used a towel to protect the dash and a plastic bag to protect the passenger's seat. Probably wasn't safe but I didn't die.
    Thought I'd point it out since we're talking about practicality.
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    Depends on your point of view...

    Comparing it to a sport hatch that costs a little more than 1/2 what a CTR costs... burns 2/3 the fuel... with tire costs substantially less over the lifetime while seating one more... it doesn't make much sense.

    If you're looking at other performance cars however... when looking back at the relatively low cost of entry and very functional 2+2 for seating 4 adults with hatchback storage... while matching or beating other dedicated sportscars for far less money to buy and maintain while likely being very reliable long-term... it makes sense.

    It's all in how you compare it. Depending on how do so can make it seem ridiculous and frivolous or a bargain.
     
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    Honestly, this right here is one of the most exciting things about the car for me. It's a fast and fun car, but it can do that.

    Great point with the spare tire kit. Definitely looking into that.

    Don't get me wrong folks, I know I will be getting this car because it is fun, and because it's a freaking Type R. A fun car is a fun car, and should be treated as such. But since I am considering this vehicle becoming my new daily driver, my practical side kicks in.

    I could just get the sport hatch and be done with it. But I also acknowledge that if I don't get the Type R, I am going to regret it.

    Thanks for all of the input folks. :)
     
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    I think it's all relative.

    The Civic Type R is (for me) an extremely practical car. I can seat 4 adults comfortably with all their belongings. It's got a huge hatch/trunk area, which is even larger when you fold down the seats. Suspension is nice and compliant in Comfort, the car gets 30mpg on the highway (and still averages around 24mpg in mixed driving), and has a modern infotainment suite. It's extremely cheap to maintain/service and insurance is shockingly cheap (I pay around $475 for 6 months).

    I was cross shopping the CTR with used GT350s, V8 Vantages, Camaro Z/28, and Lotus Elise/Exiges. Those cars (the Lotuses in particular) are more of what I would call impractical cars. They get atrocious gas mileage, have poor visibility, no storage space, servicing and insurance costs are insane.

    The line between practical/impractical for me is when the car is difficult/not fun to daily drive, but obviously that line is different for everyone.
     
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    From a cargo space perspective, I do not think you can get a more practical car that has similar performance to the TypeR for the price. If you start factoring in maintenance and running costs then things get worse for it. But who cares about that?! You're driving a TypeR!

    But I will say this: If you want a TypeR do not settle for the sport hatch (as long as you can afford the TypeR). You will regret it and it will end up costing you more in the long run if you can't get the TypeR out of your head and you end up upgrading later. I've done that with so many cars in the past. Just get what you want.
     
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    Agreed, it's totally relative, and that it's a self imposed practicality level.

    I mean, it's totally practical in comparison to coupes and other sports vehicles, but... it's still not really a practical vehicle in comparison to vehicles of it's same chassis type. I fully appreciate that the CTR has cargo room, seats for 4, and a comfort mode that makes Seattle streets barely bearable. But in reality if I wanted JUST a practical vehicle I would have chosen something with an automatic transmission, easy for me and passengers to get in and out of, room for 5, better gas mileage, didn't require premium gas, and a body styling I didn't care if it got dinged while street parked. Overall, the CTR is not a "Practical" car.

    All that being said... I still love this damn car, and I wouldn't trade it for anything right now. It's one of the two practical vehicles I could have chosen from the list I was interested in as well.
     
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    Someone else nailed it - it's an incredibly practical car for the performance and it's class. Compared to 2 seaters or even other hot hatches, it has an incredible amount of interior volume, class leading fuel economy, seats 4 adults comfortably, low maintenance requirements, low insurance, etc.

    The unique balance of performance and practicality is a major reason why I chose the R.
     
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    Maintenance and running costs completely caught me off guard. Much higher than I expected, although some is my own doing.

    The car is practical, but after living with it for about 18 months I do think as a daily driver in certain areas it falls short. Uneven roads are a nightmare in terms of ride comfort, and that’s a majority of my commute (thanks PA!). Comfort mode helps, but the nerfed throttle pedal response sucks. The other issue is when you’re in traffic and you have to constantly shuffle gears, because pretty much below 2k RPM the engine feels gutless. I always try to keep the car above 2k RPM for that reason (and because auto rev match works too then).

    Find the perfect road though and this car shines. The question then becomes how often you find those roads though. I know with the increased construction in my area as well as school starting back up there’s more traffic on the roads which dampens the experience.
     
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    maintenance isn't too different ...
    pad and tire wear all depends on what compound you use. You use a cheap compound like what they come in the regular civics and downsize the wheels, the cost isn't that different.

    only thing that the car consumes more of is fuel.

    Also, you can sit in comfort mode with increased throttle response if you have a tuning unit :p and having to constantly row through gears is a problem no matter what car you are in if its a MT.
     
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    The only high cost on these cars is the tires. Oil changes, brake pads/rotors, etc. are all crazy cheap compared to other performance cars with similar performance.

    I've had several B7 RS4s (similar performance, better sound), and you would pass out if you saw the repair bills. 4 new rotors all around is ~$1500. Oil change from the dealership is at least 3x as expensive as the Type R. The suspension has cross-linked, hydraulic lines between the dampers. If it goes out, the cost to repair is $2-3k (or just put on a new set of coilovers). There are even more common issues (carbon buildup, injector failure, etc), but the car is actually fairly reliable, just really expensive to run. The CTR is super cheap, comparatively.
     
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    Very practical IMO. MPG can average 30+ if you're not always in R mode and have the pedal down to the floor. Use it for long road trips with our 110 pound German Shepherd in the back comfortably along with our bags with space to spare.
     
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    I haven't noticed any maintenance cost differences. The only thing that would come to mind would be the brake pads and rotors that might be slightly higher. Running costs is definitely going to be in gas since it's not the most fuel efficient (but I would't say it isn't fuel efficient either) and you have to get premium, more or less.

    You're having issues with comfort, and with the stock setup on the CTR, I agree with you. It's not bad bad, but it's not good either. Swap to 18" wheels and it'll get rid of the issue almost entirely. Plus if you go to a light setup (around 20-ish lbs per wheel) it'll also be faster, have a better tire selection, and possibly cheaper tires too! ;)

    If you want auto rev match to work below 2000 RPM, downshift 2+ gears. The rev match is a little slower though, but if you want to speed it up, blip the throttle while you're moving the gear lever ;)
     
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    It’s mostly fuel, and the fact that tires are SO damn expensive (cheaping out for what the car is feels wrong). I’m almost to 29 MPG combined (per the dashboard) and I still have to fill up once a week.

    I considered the swap to 18s but then not only would I need new wheels I would need ANOTHER set of new tires for them. Rather not spending a couple grand for a while.

    But yeah, comfort mode helps with the craptastic roads in PA but you can still feel a lot of the vibrations make their way into the cabin. On the plus side, hitting potholes doesn’t quite sound like I just blew an entire axle up.
     
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    depending on tire size for the new wheels, they could also pay for themselves after a set or two compared to stock.
     
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    What color you thinking of? :)
     
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