More sad news for the manual

  1. Lukifer

    Lukifer Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2018
    Posts:
    251
    Thanked:
    307
    Location:
    Rochester, MI
    First Name:
    Luke
    Car(s):
    2018 Honda Civic Si
    Meat Hammer, typemismatch and grumpyguy6 thanked this.
  2. CobraCommand

    CobraCommand Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2017
    Posts:
    492
    Thanked:
    490
    Location:
    NS, Canada
    Car(s):
    2019 Canadian Civic LX Hatchback, formerly 2017 Canadian Civic LX Sedan
    Rowing gears is fun, but humans can't keep up with how fast and efficient a computer can shift a car these days. :/
     
    SC310, jms and Charley-TX thanked this.
  3. xcoreflyup

    xcoreflyup Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2016
    Posts:
    676
    Thanked:
    308
    Location:
    Orange County
    Car(s):
    2017 Hatchback Sport
    Alot of bmw owners dont even know their car are RWD and cant tell the difference.
     
    unholy79, frontlinegeek, SC310 and 4 others thanked this.
  4. ycehcky

    ycehcky Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    Posts:
    86
    Thanked:
    71
    Location:
    Virginia Beach, VA
    First Name:
    Matt
    Car(s):
    2018 Civic Si
    Sad but true. I had fun with my 6 speed BMW.

    20160903_074757.jpg
     
  5. dallasjhawk

    dallasjhawk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Posts:
    3,910
    Thanked:
    3,806
    Location:
    Arlington, TX
    Car(s):
    2016 Civic EX-T, 2004 Acura TSX
  6. typemismatch

    typemismatch Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2017
    Posts:
    971
    Thanked:
    917
    Occupation:
    Software development
    Location:
    Fargo, ND
    First Name:
    Russell
    Car(s):
    A whole farm of Hondas
    For me, it's not as much about going a split second faster as the experience of driving.

    For that, there's no replacement for a manual transmission.
     
    HammerSi, pidigi, Lox9588 and 10 others thanked this.
  7. lurker_j

    lurker_j Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2018
    Posts:
    471
    Thanked:
    294
    Location:
    --
    Car(s):
    '18 WOP FC1
    Where are those guys who keep talking about the 2.0 being a better engine? I'd like to hear their opinion on going all CVT as well... ;):thumbsup:
     
    xbbnx thanked this.
  8. fjrman

    fjrman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Posts:
    270
    Thanked:
    112
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Car(s):
    2016 Civic 4 door LX with CVT
    All my cars in over 40 years of driving have been manuals except for my first (Chevy V8 auto) and my current '16 Civic. I had a Nissan Maxima with a manual -- a very rare bird.

    I don't want another manual. After driving the Civic CVT the last two years I've concluded I'm done with manuals.

    It's just so easy to drive the CVT. I occasionally miss the high rpm thrill of a manual but not enough to go back.

    I get my manual thrills on my motorcycle. My motorcycle's performance envelope is so much higher than any car I've owned -- there's no comparison.

    I'll get my thrills on the bike and be happy and content with the CVT.
     
    Civicguy1206 and jms thanked this.
  9. unr1

    unr1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2016
    Posts:
    425
    Thanked:
    184
    Location:
    So Cal
    Car(s):
    L15B7
    BMW is uninspiring
     
  10. turbo dragon

    turbo dragon Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2018
    Posts:
    194
    Thanked:
    70
    Location:
    Macon GA
    First Name:
    Chad
    Car(s):
    SI X
    id hate to see the true manual in the auto world fade out, its always been a great driving experience to push a clutch and shift a gear
     
  11. racer

    racer Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2018
    Posts:
    637
    Thanked:
    378
    Location:
    Virginia
    First Name:
    Dave
    Car(s):
    2018 Civic Si sedan.
    When buyers stop buying, makers stop making. its that simple. Not enough people buy manuals.. so makers stop making them. 10 people notice.. no one else cares.
     
    X_Gen_Si, Charley-TX, jtrader and 4 others thanked this.
  12. Micah

    Micah Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2017
    Posts:
    2,058
    Thanked:
    1,287
    Location:
    Toms River, NJ
    Car(s):
    '17 Si 4DR FlashPro +9psi (3k-14k) Ktuner TSP Stage 1(14k-30k+) '17 Traverse LT AWD
    Holy crap, good on Datsun for putting a manual in the Maxima. A friend of mine had an Xterra which was a manual. Blew me away when I saw that.

    Sadly manuals will eventually disappear, hopefully not in my lifetime. CVT, and even modern AT just have better accelleration/efficiency and more reliable operation (more often as time passes).
     
  13. OP
    OP
    Lukifer

    Lukifer Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2018
    Posts:
    251
    Thanked:
    307
    Location:
    Rochester, MI
    First Name:
    Luke
    Car(s):
    2018 Honda Civic Si
    #13 Lukifer, Oct 4, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2018
    I agree. Every time I drive my Si, I feel like we grow a little closer. I continue to improve my rev matching on downshifts and quick launches without spinning the tires. I'm learning how it likes to scurry out of turns and what gear to be in at my current speed for maximum power delivery. All of this is lost on an automatic.

    I know that one day manuals will be gone, and I will mourn a bygone era of automotive history; a time when driving offered a pinch of magic and substance before it was watered down for the masses.
     
  14. OP
    OP
    Lukifer

    Lukifer Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2018
    Posts:
    251
    Thanked:
    307
    Location:
    Rochester, MI
    First Name:
    Luke
    Car(s):
    2018 Honda Civic Si
    My uncle had a Ford Aerostar minivan with a manual back in the day. I couldn't believe it! lol
     
    Micah thanked this.
  15. Zeffy94

    Zeffy94 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2017
    Posts:
    908
    Thanked:
    662
    Location:
    Doylestown, PA
    First Name:
    Matt
    Car(s):
    2018 Honda Civic Type R, 2007 Toyota RAV4
    I’m so glad I took the risk by buying my Type R not knowing how to drive stick. Learning it may have been a struggle sometimes but now I have so much fun driving and a lot of it is the feeling that rowing your own gears provides.

    Most kids don’t even want to drive themselves so it’s not a shock they don’t want to shift their own gears either. Sucks but a lot of millennials my age think manuals are not practical... but they will never understand what it feels like to have a connection with a car.
     
    conbrio, Aachan510, Froggie and 5 others thanked this.
Loading...

Share This Page

Loading...