KBB Supra vs CTR

[kevv_FK8]

Toyota said a MT is not coming and if you want a manual to go get an 86.

Sucks but this is the world we live in now

Toyota never said that...during their press meeting they mentioned they will explore a manual variant in the future if demand is high.

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[jred721]

Toyota never said that...during their press meeting they mentioned they will explore a manual variant in the future if demand is high.

Toyota actually did say that. Read this road and track article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/amp28675657/toyota-supra-no-manual/

It's sad but I guess the amount of people who would buy a manual is too small to justify.

 

[jayevo23]

which could still be coming in the near future according to Toyota

There is a shop in Texas willing to do a manual conversion but it cost you 12k and take 30-45 days https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/13/2020-toyota-supra-manual-transmission-conversion/

 

[boosted180sx]

Toyota actually did say that. Read this road and track article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/amp28675657/toyota-supra-no-manual/

It's sad but I guess the amount of people who would buy a manual is too small to justify.

it really is unfortunate.
But i guess it makes sense. The ZF will most likely give you better fuel economy, faster track times both 1/4 mile and circuit racing, and comfortable to drive on a daily basis due to having a torque converter.

Even the corvette who has had a manual all these years even with 755 hp has moved on from MT ...

 

[kevv_FK8]

Toyota actually did say that. Read this road and track article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/amp28675657/toyota-supra-no-manual/

It's sad but I guess the amount of people who would buy a manual is too small to justify.

hmmm....interesting I swear I remember watching a youtube vid reviewing the car and them mentioning a manual was possible in the future....guess not. well that sucks.

 

[xABNINx]

lol comparing apples and oranges

 

[omar0123]

Honda 100% vs 50% toyota and 50%bmw

 

[GundamTypeR]

I don't get the obsessed comparison of these two cars. IMO, supra is better all around than the type R...but there's a price to pay.

I also don't get how anyone argues that the Type R is better lol...to me, the supra has way more power (from what I've seen on dynos, not the MFR's numbers) and it's RWD!

But, I still like my Type R better...because my wife would kill me if I traded it in right now...but later...different story I'm thinking 2021 I'll trade in for the Supra

Did you do it lmao

 

[catspaw]

I suppose I would have been the target for this sort of comparison because I literally cross-shopped the Supra and Civic. I picked the Type R because of how much more livable and usable it would be for everyday life, and I'd still be getting 80% of the performance. Plus the launch edition Supras were a hot mess.

 

[E404]

I don't get the obsessed comparison of these two cars. IMO, supra is better all around than the type R...but there's a price to pay.

I also don't get how anyone argues that the Type R is better lol...to me, the supra has way more power (from what I've seen on dynos, not the MFR's numbers) and it's RWD!

But, I still like my Type R better...because my wife would kill me if I traded it in right now...but later...different story I'm thinking 2021 I'll trade in for the Supra

How many more days till you trade it in?

 

[tinyman392]

I did have the chance to test drive my buddy’s 2019 (so the 330 HP model). It definitely could launch better than the Civic, but overall it didn’t feel that much faster than my Type R did; even in a straight line (rolling). I should note that the temps were in their 50’s and weather cloudy at the time though. One thing I do need to say is that torque builds up very quickly on the Supra which I would love to have in the Type R as you do have to at least get ⅓ through the rev range before you feel anything in the FK8; the Supra was more or less immediate (by 2k you were good to go).

While the seating position is lower in the Supra for me, the seats weren’t as comfortable as the Civic’s (I’ve had trouble finding a car that bests the FK8 in this regard). I really wasn’t a fan of the way car’s shift logic, so I tended to revert back to manual control using the paddle shifters or slapping the gear selector back and forth which worked decently well. The car’s 9 gears definitely wasn’t designed well for this in mind though.

I didn’t get a chance to really push it much around corners and stuff unfortunately, for everyday work the steering felt good and the car felt good overall. The cabin of the Supra is a little more cramped, but not too bad. Overall the Supra does feel like a proper sports car, but with the 330 HP model, it desperately needs a 6 or 7 speed manual. Though since then, the 380 HP model has been released, so the similar power levels is no where near anymore I’d assume.

I then told my buddy to hop into the driver’s seat of the FK8 and take that for a spin. He was able to do a couple pulls with it and said it seemed like it was around similar power levels to the Supra at peak with much more comfortable seats. It had been a while since he was in a manual so the rev matching was very helpful for him. He didn’t stall which he was surprised by though I wasn’t (it’s actually quite difficult to stall the Type R).

I must admit, I probably didn’t push the Supra as strong as I could have though.

 

[David Harper]

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[AlphaDigital]

Im really starting to dig the new supra more and more. I dont mind the fact about the collaboration with BMW at all either. I dont think I could bring myself to get rid of the R, so maybe in a few more years Ill pick one up to supplement it.

The auto trans despite not being DCT seems incredibly responsive, and both the trans and block have shown to hold up well to a lot of power, which is nice. Being auto also means my wife could drive it as well if she needs to. Seems like a great weekend car to me.

Cant wait to see where the platform goes, seems pretty easy to get these things near 500whp with ethanol and bolt ons.

 

[02SilverSiHB]

Did you do it lmao

Nope like my ctr too much lol

 

[Fountainhead]

could you imagine..turbo'd s2000 lol, crazy

I would be divorced over immediately trading my R for that. Oh boy the R engine in a S2000 size chassis!

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