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That was a fairly poor review at NCM. All I came away with is the new CTR is not like the old ITR, not much else.Honda has got to fix these overheating issues on the track because at this point it's getting to Alfa Romeo levels of embarrassing.
Because it’s an American magazine and we never got the FK2. The only other performance Hondas in a somewhat similar price range made in the last 20 years are the ITR and S2000.What confuses me is all the ITR comparisons. Why not compare it to the FK2 instead or even the other CTRs.
Yeah, seriously. A 15 year old car that shares nothing but the "Type R" name? How does that make sense?What confuses me is all the ITR comparisons. Why not compare it to the FK2 instead or even the other CTRs.
I completely understand that, but can we really assume they've never driven an EK9 or FK2? As a car journalist, one would think they have resources to do so. The ITR was and still a great car. However, I don't think it should be compared to the FK8.You guys are missing the point. There have only been two Type Rs sold in North America. Why wouldn't you compare the two? The ITR was, deservedly so, an iconic performance vehicle. The Type R philosophy is a distillation of Honda's emphasis on lightness, handling, chassis tuning, and driver engagement all motivated by a free-revving flexible slick powertrain. The DC2 Integra Type R had that in spades. Does the new Civic Type R follow in its footsteps, lose its way, or forge a different path? Turbocharging, giant wheels, electric steering, a cable shifter, synthetic rev-matching, an extra 500 lbs are all compromises of the Civic being a modern sports car/sedan. While it might provide superior grip and speed, if you prefer rawness, tossability and purity, the CTR doesn't even come close.