hondata +6 vs +9 map

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you will not be able to raise the boost without messing with the TQ table even at upper rpm
Do you have any recommended settings for upping the boost/torque a bit while keeping it within the limits of safety?
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Can't help you as I don't know what's considered a safe limit.
 

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What's interesting is I've seen you post numbers for other members in other posts but when I ask you here or in PM you won't help. Doug (Hondata) told me specifically to ask you because he said you were an expert.
 

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You are asking for a safe limit. I can not help you with that.
If you want to raise the boost then yes I can help you but there's a risk. If you are afraid of damaging the CVT then you should follow what the software recommends.

I have told you this before. You need to raise the TQ table to be able to raise the boost level. I can not help you on what's consider safe. Hondata recommends 250 nM
 
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If you feel comfortable enough then you can raise the TQ limits little by limit to see what you like.

If this was my car then I would just put 300 nM above 3500 rpm then set the boost at whatever you feel comfortable running. Since you said you wanted more top end. So add 1-2psi more above 4000 rpm.
 


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You are asking for a safe limit. I can not help you with that.
If you want to raise the boost then yes I can help you but there's a risk. If you are afraid of damaging the CVT then you should follow what the software recommends.

I have told you this before. You need to raise the TQ table to be able to raise the boost level. I can not help you on what's consider safe. Hondata recommends 250 nM
This pretty much sums it up. The "safe levels" are the base maps. While they are considered somewhat conservative, anything beyond that is done at some level of risk. @dc2turbo's hesitancy to post specific numbers is well understood because not everyone understands what risks they may be taking. Even if good information is given, if applied incorrectly it could cause issues and then they turn around and point the finger and who gave them advice, regardless of who actually made the error. This is not directed to you specifically @gtman , just a general statement.
 

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If you feel comfortable enough then you can raise the TQ limits little by limit to see what you like.

If this was my car then I would just put 300 nM above 3500 rpm then set the boost at whatever you feel comfortable running. Since you said you wanted more top end. So add 1-2psi more above 4000 rpm.
Thanks. Yeah I would just try raising the torque in small increments maybe starting at 270-275nm. Setting that table is easy and above 3500 makes sense with the CVT. Setting the boost is what throws me off as a newbie. I'm not all that familiar with doing that correctly.

Would just raising the torque limit only give me any noticeable increase in power above 3500?
 
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Thanks. Yeah I would just try raising the torque in small increments. Setting that table is easy and above 3500 only makes sense with the CVT.

Setting the boost is what throws me off as a newbie. I'm not all that familiar with doing that correctly.
Post a screen shot of your boost table and I can help break it down for you.
 

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I don't know if this effects things but my area is about 700 ft. above sea level.

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Honda Civic 10th gen hondata +6 vs +9 map upload_2018-4-18_15-35-43

Highlight selected area and right click > adjust

I would add 2-3% at a time. at 3% it will give it about 1-1.5 psi
 
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dc2turbo, thank you.

I think I will try bumping boost up 3% in the highlighted areas and increasing torque to 270-275 nm from 3500-5500 or to 6000? I know you can't say it's risk free, but does that sound like a reasonable starting point?
 

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no point leaving the last 500rpm untouched

Also don't just keep adding 3% each time and expect to be 1 psi each time. It's adding 3% to the value

The formula I use to see what the PSI is set to is .
Cell value * 14.7 = X
X - 14.7= PSI
 

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I don't know if this effects things but my area is about 700 ft. above sea level.

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The numbers you see are here are your pressure targets, in bar. 1 bar = 14.7 psi

2.375 bar = 34.9 psi HOWEVER you must deduct 1 bar from that to account for standard atmospheric pressure. That being said, a target of 2.375 bar means your turbocharger is targetting 1.375 bar of positive pressure (in relationship to atmospheric pressure) which comes to 20.2psi.

I typically make my adjustments 0.1 bar at a time. 0.1 bar is equal to just under 1.5psi. Another method is using percentages like dc2turbo. It's just a preference thing. I like round numbers on my tables, a bit OCD I suppose. :)
 

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Using dc2turbo's +3% method, I came up with this. Am I maxing out at around 21psi?

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