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and theres tons of people tracking on this site, the pictures i posted are all members on here. And they do ACTUAL track racing, not glorified parking lot runs autox.
here's the spoon and mugen cars who run oem style suspension still as well with 9.5" +45ish or lower offset wheels. Guess those guys don't know what theyre doing either and make monkey marketing slower than oem cars ... guess ill trust "baldheadracing" on civicx instead!
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Wowza. Wanted to give you some time to let that vein in your forehead calm down a little bit....
All I'm saying (again) is for people to do the research.
There are conflicting views on this offset topic, as I've illustrated above, so just be aware of that.
Nobody said those guys don't know what they're doing.
I mean damn homies.... maybe we should pick a less emotional topic, like politics, religion, gun control, or abortion lmao
We're all just trying to help each other :)
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We are trying to tell you there isn’t any change in what you’re saying.

I tracked it with stock wheels once (mistake those tires weren’t loving life) and have since tracked it a few times on lower than 45 offset wheels. There is zero difference and this was on thunderhill west which is the shorter, lower speed more technical track and thunderhill east higher speed. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
 

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Wowza. Wanted to give you some time to let that vein in your forehead calm down a little bit....
All I'm saying (again) is for people to do the research.
There are conflicting views on this offset topic, as I've illustrated above, so just be aware of that.
Nobody said those guys don't know what they're doing.
I mean damn homies.... maybe we should pick a less emotional topic, like politics, religion, gun control, or abortion lmao
We're all just trying to help each other :)
Wowza is right, strong opinions, but good to hear track people actually use these and not just for the STANCE-LYFE. So the answer is yes low offset Volks work well. GLWS to OP.

I don't have expertise to speak on it, but I think it's a bit much how snarky people are getting without pointing out the difference in discussion between torque steer and handling. As far as I understand, torque steer is just force put upon the steering wheel and has nothing to do with how the car handles.
 

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I wonder how these would look on ABM...

Very tempted
 

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Wowza is right, strong opinions, but good to hear track people actually use these and not just for the STANCE-LYFE. So the answer is yes low offset Volks work well. GLWS to OP.

I don't have expertise to speak on it, but I think it's a bit much how snarky people are getting without pointing out the difference in discussion between torque steer and handling. As far as I understand, torque steer is just force put upon the steering wheel and has nothing to do with how the car handles.
We are saying they don’t add anything to torque steer either. You’re spreading misinformation based off one article you read and zero experience or proof. Stop spreading misinformation is what we are saying. Zero noticeable increase in torque steer. Not sure how clear to make it the one article you read was wrong and written by a desk jockey looking for content.
 


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and theres tons of people tracking on this site, the pictures i posted are all members on here. And they do ACTUAL track racing, not glorified parking lot runs autox.
here's the spoon and mugen cars who run oem style suspension still as well with 9.5" +45ish or lower offset wheels. Guess those guys don't know what theyre doing either and make monkey marketing slower than oem cars ... guess ill trust "baldheadracing" on civicx instead!
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I thought spoon were running 40 offset :)

Torque Steer?

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We are saying they don’t add anything to torque steer either. You’re spreading misinformation based off one article you read and zero experience or proof. Stop spreading misinformation is what we are saying. Zero noticeable increase in torque steer. Not sure how clear to make it the one article you read was wrong and written by a desk jockey looking for content.
Get off your high horse cowboy. I didn't post any article so get off my ass and stop garbaging up this sale listing.
 

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Get off your high horse cowboy. I didn't post any article so get off my ass and stop garbaging up this sale listing.
Says the guy who keeps coming back. I’m not on a high horse I just don’t like people spreading BS. I mention the article because there has only been one mentioning what you’re talking about so it’s clearly where it came from.
 


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Says the guy who keeps coming back. I’m not on a high horse I just don’t like people spreading BS. I mention the article because there has only been one mentioning what you’re talking about so it’s clearly where it came from.
First, I am not in one camp or the other. The present of minimally induced torque steer (if there is any) is objective and the feeling of it is somewhat subjective. There are as many owners claiming the present of torque steer with their lower offset wheels as people who claim not. Your opinion is just as valid as the other owners. Why is yours must be correct while others' are wrong?

I don't see @bri spreading misinformation. He was just pointing out that people should do their own research and decide for themselves.
 

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Higher offset will reduce torque steer. The stock OEM rims are +60 offset - there have been many discussions on lower offset wheels increasing the scrub radius which may affect torque steer. RSR to my knowledge has not offered anything above +40 for CTR fitment.

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yes, you WILL rub even with the camber arms. in our group's review, 265/35/18 on 18x9.5+41 wheels, spc camber arms, and swift springs (same lowering height as sport lines here) and they rubbed on the inside and outside.

spc camber arms were set at -2.5 degs camber on the rear after realignment. they are able to get you to max -3.0 degs camber but too much for daily street and uneven tire wear so were set at -2.5 deg.

read the review i just replied above and note the rubbing.

if you want to be safe and not have to ghetto cut or trim your fenders, here's the guidance we've been giving folks - regardless if you're using prokit, spoon, h&r....or lower springs of swift and sport line:

- do not go less than +45mm wheel offset, you will also get dramatic increase in torque steer straight line and in corners.

- do not go more than 265mm tire width and ideally stay within 265/35/18 (assuming 18" wheels).

- install the spc/eibach camber arms for adjustability.

on tires not all 265mm are the same...compare the tread width and equally important the sectional width. you'll find that it varies from tire mfg and model to another.

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(Juss sayin')
And there's 30+ people I can list who actually track and daily their cars and are fine with these setups. once again, stop internet mechanic'ing and look at what's really happening. anyways sold! Thanks.
 

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and theres tons of people tracking on this site, the pictures i posted are all members on here. And they do ACTUAL track racing, not glorified parking lot runs autox.
here's the spoon and mugen cars who run oem style suspension still as well with 9.5" +45ish or lower offset wheels. Guess those guys don't know what theyre doing either and make monkey marketing slower than oem cars ... guess ill trust "baldheadracing" on civicx instead!
First of all, congrats on the sale. Those are really nice wheels. I wouldn't have posted otherwise, but as I've been quoted ...

For the record, my Time Attack wheels are ET42 (rules-limited). Wider wheels require lower offsets; that's just geometry and suspension clearance. OTOH, my winter wheels are ET60.

As for torque steer: https://global.honda/innovation/technology/automobile/Dual-axis-strut-suspension-picturebook.html
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