FlashPro for CTR tuning results

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Please explain better Anti Lag.

I have it installed on FK8 with Intercooler, straight downpipe, Intake...
It sounds REALLY rough tho.
It sounds really rough because it is really rough on the turbo and the engine. I suggest googling the potential problems with running anti lag.
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Please explain better Anti Lag.

I have it installed on FK8 with Intercooler, straight downpipe, Intake...
It sounds REALLY rough tho.
Anti lag works by forcing the turbo to spin by creating high exhaust gas pressure using ignition timing retard and adding fuel.
It helps to keep the turbo spooled in between shifts/off throttle and reduces the lag you'd get when going back on the throttle.

However, it creates very high EGTs due to the ignition retard and it really isn't good for the motor or the turbo. Also, if you have a catalytic converter on the car, you will also destroy that rather quickly due to EGTs.

What flash pro calls anti lag isn't really anti lag. It's more of a 2 step/launch control. It works in the same way where it retards ignition timing and allow you to build boost without load and is used when launching the car from a stand still.
 

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Question for @Hondata regarding 2017 VS 2019 vehicle mapping.

Noticed while trying to figure out ethanol options between 2017 vs 2019 vehicle types last night (fixed in the new release of 3.3.8.0) that there are ignition and knock retard deltas across identical map types.

For reference, 2017 based 91 octane map. No mods:
Honda Civic 10th gen FlashPro for CTR tuning results 2017_compare


And here's the same thing using 2019 based 91 octane map. Again, no mods:
Honda Civic 10th gen FlashPro for CTR tuning results 2019_compare


The ignition values used in the 2017 based 91 octane map match stock equivalent for both 2017 and 2019. Am I missing something, or are the values in the 2019 based 91 octane map scaled incorrectly?
 
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How are you generating the second calibration? The 2017 and 2019 share the same calibrations so I'm not sure how to get them to differ.
 


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How are you generating the second calibration? The 2017 and 2019 share the same calibrations so I'm not sure how to get them to differ.
Exact same process for both calibrations, only difference being Vehicle type. No mods on either map.

New Calibration -> Model: Civic Type R FK8 (2017) - > Vehicle: Civic Type R 2017-2018 FK8 US -> Name: CivicR-2017-US-2-91octane-st (Description: Civic Type R FK8 US 2017, 91 octane)
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New Calibration -> Model: Civic Type R FK8 (2017) - > Vehicle: Civic Type R 2019 FK8 US -> Name: CivicR-2017-US-2-91octane-st (Description: Civic Type R FK8 US 2017, 91 octane)

I expected no difference between these two paths, hence the question. This delta is not present when comparing stock equivalent maps, and not present on all of the 2019 maps either. I've noted this on some of the 91 and some of the 93 maps using 2019 Vehicle type, but haven't checked them all.
 
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For 2017-2018 calibrations to work on the 2019 you need a FlashPro locked to a 2019. We'll look into this as they should still show the same.
 

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Tell me what to look for and how to check and I will look at my 2019 w/ Hondata.
Mine is an A21 ECU.
 

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For 2017-2018 calibrations to work on the 2019 you need a FlashPro locked to a 2019. We'll look into this as they should still show the same.
(Tell me what to look for and how to check and I will look at my 2019 w/ Hondata.
Mine is an A21 ECU.)
Or you can remote in to my computer...
 

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For 2017-2018 calibrations to work on the 2019 you need a FlashPro locked to a 2019. We'll look into this as they should still show the same.
I do have a FlashPro locked to a 2019, and I have loaded both calibrations to the vehicle without issue. Just wondering which set of tables is "correct" as displayed.
 


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I do have a FlashPro locked to a 2019, and I have loaded both calibrations to the vehicle without issue. Just wondering which set of tables is "correct" as displayed.
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