DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO!

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Hi.
I thought I would try to do a how-to on getting my power fold mirrors to work. At first, this post/thread is going to be a bit of a photo dump, but I'll clean it up a bit as I go. I'll be posting from a laptop and from a phone so the formatting can be funny.

Do I have to say this -? This is a guide. You should be competent in wiring and basic mechanical fasteners. I can't be held responsible for your damage, fire, etc etc.



I'm doing this into a 2017 Civic Type R which, as you know, is a hatchback. I do not yet know if the sedan and coupe side mirrors are the same, but the switching and wiring should be similar/same.

So, to start, Here is what you need.
Power Fold mirror switch - Part number 35190-T7A-J11 ('should' be the same in coupe or sedan also)

Driver side power mirror assembly - 76258-TGL-G12
-This part number includes blind spot indicator as well as an integrated turn signal!

Passenger side power mirror assembly -

Caps for side mirror-
-Up to you if you want to have paint-matching or if you'd prefer some other color. The ones on your car currently may or may not fit - haven't confirmed yet...but I don't know if there is a sure, clean way to pop them off without damaging something.

Wire- 2 or more colors would be good. Probably need 20' of each. It looks to be about 18ga, but I haven't measured yet. Will update-

Pins - Just like doing power-fold mirrors in any previous generation Civic/etc, you need to add some pins to connectors. You need to add 2 pins to the switch connector and 'several' pins to the side mirror connectors. The connectors appear to be the same, just with slightly different pin arrangements. Will confirm.

***The old setups had separate relays. This appears to have the relay built-in to the switch, so that's a bonus***

You should have some free time, lighting, dry (climate controlled?) area in which to work.

You need some #1 and #2 screw drivers, an assortment of flat-head screw drivers, and, ideally, something to help cleanly separate trim pieces.
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Here is a video I made on how to remove the switch gear and door panel.

 
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If you have yet to find the part # for the right hand Auto folding mirror assembly its 76208-TGL-G12

I have a set of Mirrors I sourced from the Japanese 4 door that should be here in 4 week...o_O I hope you can get this done before mine show up:rofl::p
 
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Honda Civic 10th gen DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO! upload_2017-10-6_12-54-45

Honda Civic 10th gen DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO! upload_2017-10-6_12-55-29



Ordered 10x of each of these. Not sure which one is right, but I think they're pretty close. If I have to, I can even just use these to put connectors together that go 'around' the factory harness/connector, but still give the fit and finish of a connector...just in case something had to be removed.
 


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The switch is only 2 additional pins. Haven’t gone through the mirror connector yet...
 
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small update-
Passenger side mirror appears to use a 4-pin connector - only 3 of which have wires to them since the stock mirrors only have up/down and left/right...
I'm ordering some pairs of 10-pin connectors so I can repin the mirror side and repin the harness side.


***Correction***
Still trying to figure everything out. It looks like the TypeR Touring and Sport Touring have different harnesses...
 
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Honda Civic 10th gen DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO! upload_2017-10-10_13-41-29

Honda Civic 10th gen DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO! upload_2017-10-10_13-42-29

This is for the Type R
 
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Honda Civic 10th gen DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO! upload_2017-10-10_13-44-19

Honda Civic 10th gen DIY - EDM Power Fold mirrors, 56K-NO! upload_2017-10-10_13-44-47


This is for the Sport Touring Hatch.

We can see they're different parts. The harness for the Sport Touring hatch is over $20 while the TypeR harness is only $6.
 


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32751-TGH-G40 - Civic Type R door harness (driver side)
32751-TGH-C00 - Civic Sport Touring door harness (driver side)

Can anyone get their hands on any of these and get some pictures, by chance? Online diagrams are pretty bad.
 

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small update-
Passenger side mirror appears to use a 4-pin connector - only 3 of which have wires to them since the stock mirrors only have up/down and left/right...
I'm ordering some pairs of 10-pin connectors so I can repin the mirror side and repin the harness side.


***Correction***
Still trying to figure everything out. It looks like the TypeR Touring and Sport Touring have different harnesses...
This is because the Sport Touring have lane watch:hmm: This might be the reason for the additional wires or different connector..? Now I do have the JDM Wiring Manual coming as well and since the wife reads Japanese ... I should be able to get a good idea on which wires go to which plug and colors ... might have some additional part numbers that we don't currently have access too..o_O
Either way this should be doable ... it just might take a little time to figure out:thumbsup:
 
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This is because the Sport Touring have lane watch:hmm: This might be the reason for the additional wires or different connector..? Now I do have the JDM Wiring Manual coming as well and since the wife reads Japanese ... I should be able to get a good idea on which wires go to which plug and colors ... might have some additional part numbers that we don't currently have access too..o_O
Either way this should be doable ... it just might take a little time to figure out:thumbsup:
Definitely.
I got the USDM Sport Touring connector pinout from the local dealer, as well as a point-to-point diagram of the circuit... I hadn't realized there was a 'mistake' in the wiring diagram they gave me, but as it turns out, it's just fine. This spells out where several items need to land- particularly the lane watch camera which takes up 4 pins as I recall.
I've just completed the purchase from CycleTerminal to get some 12-pin connector sets... total cost around $38 shipped. This is cheaper than 1 door harness which may not even be available in stock... I've just got the fun task of re-pining both sides of the connection now instead of just one side. NBD as I have the tool and this isn't a terrible hostile environment to work in.

Let me know what you find when your materials come in!
 
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Update-

Well, the pins are not the same at the mirror-end of the harness. I'm hoping they'll fit into the switch-end of the equation. For now, I'm working to find the exact same harness plug/connectors for the mirrors, but I haven't been lucky yet. The Multilock 040 looks similar but is bigger than what is here in the mirrors.
I bought some Multilock 040 matching sets, so if I need to, I'll have to depin the EDM connector and re-terminate the wire with the 040 pins. I'm trying to avoid that, but if I can't locate the mating connector...I won't have any choice.

At the switch end, it appears the pins are different. I'll have to pull the door switch out and have a look at the connector to know for sure. I'll try to do that tomorrow morning (my 20ga wire I ordered is to arrive today as I recall).
 
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Update 06NOV2017-
I haven't gotten anywhere with the new pins. I haven't given up on the pins just yet but, for the moment, I'm thinking I'll go a different direction. I'll be purchasing a door harnesses off Ebay, pulling the pigtail pin with wire lead out and insert them where I need them in my harness. With any luck, one of the harness connectors will have a plug with pins that will fit into my column stalk connector as well. Update to follow I hope!
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