Differences between 2020 HB Sport and 2020 HB Sport Touring?

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    I'm wondering if it's worth it for all the stuff on the 2020 ST but I don't know what the differences are. Would anyone let me know?
     
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    It's on hondas website.
     
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    LED headlights
    LED front turn signals
    LED mirror integrated turn signals
    Leather seats with 8-way power adjustment
    Premium audio
    Built-in Garmin navigation
    Auto-dimming rear view mirror
    Automatic wipers
     
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    Thanks! I think I can live without those features
     
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    Touring is a waste of money imo. Although, if touring add 50hp then its worth it.
     
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    The difference was bigger back in 2017, before the Sport got upgraded stereo, 7" screen, Honda Sensing, etc.
     
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    The sport is clearly the better bang for your buck.

    Leather for me in my 2019 was the game changer. Easier to keep clean plain and simple. Who cares about the NAVI these days with phone apps. The upgraded stereo is also nice.
     
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    And without those below. But now all trims have automatic high-beam headlights (which is a great feature), all have the same cupholders, and all can go forward, backwards, and turn left and right.

    Heated seats front and rear
    LaneWatch
    Sirius XM radio
    HD radio
    Additional USB port
    Vanity mirrors (illuminated)
    Dual zone climate
    Passenger Seatback pocket !!
    HomeLink Remote
    Heated mirrors with LED turn indicators
    Moonroof
     
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    I've been looking for a 2020 touring but only one dealership has it but it's not the color I want
     
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    If you want a manual, then it's actually a choice between Sport and Sport Touring. Personally, with the Android Auto now included in Sport it seems like the obvious choice. HomeLink and the LED headlights aren't difficult to retrofit later.

    If you're getting a CVT, the EX is the sweet spot and is what I'd get.
     
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    I have a 2019 ST hatch, and tbh I think I overpaid because the features don't add up to the difference in price. However, I like my leather seats, my sunroof, the upgraded audio, and the LED lights do really make a huge difference. I also like the middle dual exhaust vs. the EX and LX where its like under the bumper basically. For me, to get the features I wanted and to do minimal aftermarket work to it, I "had" to get the ST.

    As I said, the $$ don't add up with the features (especially as the safety suite becomes standard across models) but it was overall "worth it" to me as I got everything I wanted. If you plan on owning the car a while and especially if paying it off, I'd spend the extra money to get everything you want.
     
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    Yeah, for a while I regretted my touring but I really like the leather and other features that are only available on it. Super convenient if you can't directly drop thousands cash to add those features regardless of if they're better than OEM.
     
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    #13 Gruber, Sep 25, 2019
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    Manufacturer/dealer higher trim features never add up and never did. All options are always way way more expensive than they cost and the more expensive the car model is, the more ridiculously so (in "luxury" cars some decorative strip of crap on the dashboard which costs $14.37 to include, could be easily an option priced at $459). The "leather" as it is in the civic probably costs almost nothing extra, compared to cloth.

    For this reason there is much more room to bargain when buying a higher trim of a regular car. Manufacture/dealer just make more money on the sale anyway.

    There are exceptions, like Type R. Of course it does not "cost" so much more to make (the cost to make a 2.0T engine is about the same as 1.5T, and some features are actually missing in R compared to ST ). I would estimate it might cost maybe $2500 max to manufacture a Type R instead of an Si, but they decided to play "hard to get" and collect high premiums with this model. Which makes sense, because as it is, it can't possibly achieve significant sales numbers anyway, so it plays the role of the flagship civic.
     
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    The leather definitely costs more. It may seem like cheap leather but car leather has to withstand temperature extremes and sun, unlike say, a leather couch.

    And the 2.0T is gonna cost way more than a 1.5T cause the production volume is tiny in comparison. It's all about volume.
     
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    Is the suspension on a ST stiffer than the Sport and EX?
     
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