So where I live they have car meets and they are 100% American cars. I still go anyway because there is no real import car meets and I just want to see and talk cars. But, I get such stink eye at these meets and talked down too. So, dear American muscle car owners guess what? My R is a muscle car too! How ? Well . . . Lets see, during the lightning lap that was done not long ago it took a Mustang with an added performance package to beat the R's time. I mean that is a car costing twice as much and not exactly stock now is it. Also the big bad 770 HP 80k plus Dodge hellcat only managed to beat the R by fractions of a second per mile. A car costing 3 times the R's price tag, I would expect more. When the R came out every reviewer and magazine out there, go back and look at the covers, what did you see? Yeah the R with top of the line supercars and right there in the middle the R, no mustangs or Cameros. Nope not a single American "muscle" car in sight. oh sure go buy your 60 k base model and put another 20k in parts on it then go to a show and brag about how you are faster then me in a straight line by 1 second... bwhahaha. But in real world there are curves my friend and your big heavy boats cant hold a candle. Plus you compare to my STOCK car. If i put the same dollar amount into my R you have into that overbuild Muscle car you wouldn't even be able to read my tag I would be so far ahead of you. Proof? yeah just you tube modded civics spanking lambos butts. So yeah I own a muscle car and I will continue to come to your shows But lets say Muscle car is term used for American cars only? Well considering you get beat so much maybe you show come up with a new name? Maybe the Metrosexual car?