Civic Si in GS

[jakdotdot]

The HFP trim has been a thing in Canada since the 9th gen.

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[Apex Carver]

So I'm not sure if this has been answered. I have the HFP suspension installed on my Si, which includes stiffer springs and Dampers. The initial impression I had would be this would disqualify my car from competing in the GS class.

However I've since learned that the HFP package is available straight from the mfr in Canada. Somehow the states got screwed out of the HFP trim and the parts are considered dealer I installed accessories in the US.

So will HFP springs and Dampers disqualify the Si for GS?

One of the drivers here locally with a ND1 Miata ran into something similar when he traveled down to the US to participate in some of the bigger SCCA events. The Miata in Canada has the BOSE audio system optional on the GS trim that has the LSD and Recaros where as in the US all Miatas with those options had the BOSE audio system standard. The BOSE system included a subwoofer and a Sirius XM antenna unit that added something like 5 lbs to the overall weight of the car so the Canadian spec'd car had an advantage. He had to either purchase the audio system components separate and install it or add an equivalent amount of weight in ballast so he wouldnt be protested.

So in short, i believe the HFP package will disqualify the Si for GS on the grounds that the rulebook is based on US market vehicles and associated option packages.

 

[zroger73]

The BOSE system included a subwoofer and a Sirius XM antenna unit that added something like 5 lbs to the overall weight of the car so the Canadian spec'd car had an advantage. He had to either purchase the audio system components separate and install it or add an equivalent amount of weight in ballast so he wouldnt be protested.

...or just wait until after the event to take a dump.

 

[RacingManiac]

Not sure if this link works for you but here is a direct link to Honda of Canada's site showing the Si HFP as a trim.

https://www.honda.ca/civic_sedan/2018/si-hfp-features

Are those dealer installed parts though. SCCA rules most of the time specifically calls out dealer parts that are legal, if not called out it is not legal for the Street class use.

US Honda sites specifically calls out HFP package as an accessories package...

 

[5inn]

So I'm not sure if this has been answered. I have the HFP suspension installed on my Si, which includes stiffer springs and Dampers. The initial impression I had would be this would disqualify my car from competing in the GS class.

However I've since learned that the HFP package is available straight from the mfr in Canada. Somehow the states got screwed out of the HFP trim and the parts are considered dealer I installed accessories in the US.

So will HFP springs and Dampers disqualify the Si for GS?

Please see letter #24716 from the August (2018) FasTrack https://www.scca.com/pages/fastrack-news

It is not legal for GS.

 

[inertiadrifto86]

Please see letter #24716 from the August (2018) FasTrack https://www.scca.com/pages/fastrack-news

It is not legal for GS.

Thanks! So reading the letter it doesn't specify where it would put the Si. From what I can tell, something like DSP or CSP?

 

[Apex Carver]

Thanks! So reading the letter it doesn't specify where it would put the Si. From what I can tell, something like DSP or CSP?

If it’s just the HFP package you have it would be classed in STH. By being in street touring you open yourself up to wider wheels (9in), intake, header, and a tune so you could potentially get rid of the rev hang and grab some extra hp with a k tuner or flash pro.

 

[destoups]

Alex, I see you are in the Northwest. I think both the Northwest (Seattle) and Oregon regions have classes to accommodate your car. If you are new you would start in Novice class, no matter what you drive, and from there each offers a "tuner" class for drivers with light mods to their cars.

 

[inertiadrifto86]

Alex, I see you are in the Northwest. I think both the Northwest (Seattle) and Oregon regions have classes to accommodate your car. If you are new you would start in Novice class, no matter what you drive, and from there each offers a "tuner" class for drivers with light mods to their cars.

That's awesome! Thank you!

 

[inertiadrifto86]

Alright I feel like I'm pestering you guys so let me know if there's a better thread for this.

I curbed it a week or two back which resulted in some pretty disheartening curb rash on the wheels.

The tire also had a small chunk taken out. Can anyone tell me if this would disqualify me from passing tech?

 

[ApexEight]

@alextuned you'll be fine!

 

[tdw]

I've searched this thread and not found an answer so.... I'm looking for advice on starting pressures for my SI running 255/40-17 RE71s and stock rear sway bar. I done a fair amount of autocross but I'm not truly competitive.

 

[destoups]

@tdw You might start at 35 or so all around, let the rears climb if the car is pushy and bleed them down a couple of pounds if it's tail happy.

 

[tdw]

@tdw You might start at 35 or so all around, let the rears climb if the car is pushy and bleed them down a couple of pounds if it's tail happy.

That's where I;m at right now, I'll start out like this next weekend.
Thanks.

 

[das borgen]

@tdw You might start at 35 or so all around, let the rears climb if the car is pushy and bleed them down a couple of pounds if it's tail happy.

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