Not true. To get similar power levels to a type r you would need at minimum an aftermarket clutch, bigger turbo, ethanol, all the bolt ons etc. Even so with a stock motor, you’re pushing the safe limits at lets say 350 whp in the si, then the type r at 350. Type r doesn’t need ethanol or a turbo upgrade to make good power.
I'm just guessing, but maybe because the Si is lighter (CTR 3,117 LBS, Civic Si 2889 LBS)
I don’t think most type r owners drag race their cars. I’m sure if it’s making good power it would put down nice times. You’d likely have to get 18” wheels and tires and most just don’t bother
If you look at a stable 400 whp Civic Si which was built by Eman, you will notice that he used a lot of CTR as well as aftermarket parts, ethanol etc to achieve this. A stock Si engine is in danger of being blown after 300 whp (that is the rumor at least), so in that sense the CTR has more potential without having to go to the aftermarket. To answer your specific question, someone with more knowledge would have to weigh in, I've exhausted mine
I do see your point, but by that metric, the SI should have had very poor potential (it doesn't), since the engine is an uptuned version of the same 1.5T in the EX-T. In practice, a stock turbo FBO SI with a custom tune on 93 has almost the same delta from the factory tune as a FBO stock turbo custom tuned R on 93 (~60 whp for the SI, versus ~80 whp for the Type R). The biggest difference is that the R doesn't have the fuel bandwidth left in the stock pump to take advantage of Ethanol, while the SI does.
No its not, not even close. Ferrari only makes 8000 cars a year- thats the reason why. Who is going to R and D parts for a f12 when only 300 a year are made? Cmon man.
