Civic owner's guide updated to include Si

[Design]

My only hope, a fading one though, is that the Si falls under the #4 category and will have the spare:

If it doesn't... and there's no easy way to put one in... that might be a deal breaker. I don't want to get stranded and call AAA with a flat just because they wanted to shed a few extra pounds of weight. That should have been at least an option!

I think you are right. It might be an accessory add-on, or a factory option like the summer tires.

We need someone with access to the parts catalog to confirm if the rear trunk area is different on the Si (and whether the spare tire is an option).

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[WNCSi]

I think you are right. It might be an accessory add-on, or a factory option like the summer tires.

We need someone with access to the parts catalog to confirm if the rear trunk area is different on the Si (and whether the spare tire is an option).

I would be incredibly surprised if the floor of the trunk was different than the Other models simply because of the additional machines and tooling it would require. Seems like it being excluded in the name of weight savings (with the real reason being cost) and then available at dealerships would make sense.

 

[ikbenben]

The tire repair kit is an interesting approach. They probably did it to save weight.

I already got the kit in my (Euro) hatch instead of the spare.

An interior photo of an Si at the NYIAS clearly shows ridges on the volume bar just like the non-Si models. Perhaps Honda are using the same component and simply disabled the slide feature or they made a last-minute change to a rocker switch.

Mine doesn't have the slide feature but does have the ridges.

 

[dmitri]

Mine doesn't have the slide feature but does have the ridges.

So is it a rocker-type control? Is there a quick/easy way to mute or bring the volume way down? My understanding was that that's one of the useful features of the slider thingy...

 

[joe007]

Why do you have to toggle SPORT mode every time you get in the car? What's going to happen when someone forgets once in a while? The car is going to handle like a minivan, someone will oversteer off a bridge. Dumb decision Honda, SPORT should be default, or it should toggle and remember the last setting!!

The entire adjustable handling / suspension feature is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard, right up there with the e-parking brake. How about you sell the Si with ONLY the SPORT handling / suspension, and tell people who don't like it to buy a CR-V.

 

[zroger73]

Why do you have to toggle SPORT mode every time you get in the car? What's going to happen when someone forgets once in a while? The car is going to handle like a minivan, someone will oversteer off a bridge. Dumb decision Honda, SPORT should be default, or it should toggle and remember the last setting!!

The entire adjustable handling / suspension feature is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard, right up there with the e-parking brake. How about you sell the Si with ONLY the SPORT handling / suspension, and tell people who don't like it to buy a CR-V.

I think it's a very smart move on Honda's part. Most of the time, most Si owners will be driving from point A to point B on public roadways with other traffic in a safe and legal manner. Occasionally, some of them will want to enjoy the curvy backroads or engage in some friendly competition in a sanctioned area. A few will drive like idiots everywhere they go trying to race every car they pull up beside at a traffic light. For the majority, it's nice to have a comfortable setting for relaxed, easy driving and a less comfortable setting for sharper handling during spirited or competitive driving.

I do agree that it should be a persistent setting that doesn't default one way or another each time the car is shut off - just like ECON mode.

 

[coopermidnight]

Why do you have to toggle SPORT mode every time you get in the car? What's going to happen when someone forgets once in a while? The car is going to handle like a minivan, someone will oversteer off a bridge. Dumb decision Honda, SPORT should be default, or it should toggle and remember the last setting!!

The entire adjustable handling / suspension feature is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard, right up there with the e-parking brake. How about you sell the Si with ONLY the SPORT handling / suspension, and tell people who don't like it to buy a CR-V.

Out of everything related to the 2017 Civic Si, this is what you choose to fume over. Cool off, buddy. If someone forgets sport mode and goes off a bridge, Darwin would've taken him out sooner or later anyway.

 

[Wizerud]

Would be nice if turning off traction control also put the car in Sport mode automatically.

 

[WNCSi]

Out of everything related to the 2017 Civic Si, this is what you choose to fume over. Cool off, buddy. If someone forgets sport mode and goes off a bridge, Darwin would've taken him out sooner or later anyway.

Yep. Dummies gonna dumb. No button on the console can cure stupid.

 

[joe007]

Sorry, default should be sport. Sorry, this is a mothing f**king Civic Si, not some minivan or CR-V. Civic Si means SPORT, that's what the S stands for. Honda screwed up big time on this car.

 

[jd2157]

Yep. Dummies gonna dumb. No button on the console can cure stupid.

Yep and trolls gonna be trollin.

 

[jd2157]

Sorry, default should be sport. Sorry, this is a mothing f**king Civic Si, not some minivan or CR-V. Civic Si means SPORT, that's what the S stands for. Honda screwed up big time on this car.

"Should" is whatever Honda decides it is. It's pretty clear what they've decided the Si should be from the choices they've made. From the 1.5 instead of the 2.0, to the Econ mode being persistent, to the weight reduction, etc... they believe the Si "should" be fuel efficient while being fun... fuel efficiency is part of their brand and always has been.

 

[ikbenben]

So is it a rocker-type control? Is there a quick/easy way to mute or bring the volume way down? My understanding was that that's one of the useful features of the slider thingy...

Yep, it looks exactly the same as the slider but without the slide function. Push up or down to adjust volume.
You can mute in the screen. If you touch the volume "button" a slider appears with a mute "button" under.

 

[Eldorian]

Yep, it looks exactly the same as the slider but without the slide function. Push up or down to adjust volume.
You can mute in the screen. If you touch the volume "button" a slider appears with a mute "button" under.

I can't understand the decision here.. Why would they do this? I mean, it uses the same audio head unit.. why use a different switch on the steering wheel controls?

 

[ikbenben]

I can't understand the decision here.. Why would they do this? I mean, it uses the same audio head unit.. why use a different switch on the steering wheel controls?

There are more things about the Civic among countries that doesn't make sense

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