DarkLight
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So, I’ve been running all of the Ultra Racing chassis braces for some time now, and it really transformed the car’s handling.
Which got me thinking, what other ways could I stiffen the chassis without adding too much weight or resorting to extreme/impractical measures like seam welding the chassis or adding a cage? I daily the car now so anything invasive is off the table.
What I decided to do was to seam weld the lower radiator support bracket. I noticed that it ties the ends of the subframe together, where the most flex occurs, and can unbolted from the car. Perfect place to add some stiffness, and also works on the same plane as the UR front power brace.
I went online and looked up prices for this piece. I was seeing about $80 new and as low as $27 used, so I didn’t have much to lose if something went wrong.
After removing it from the car, I noticed that it was made from two pieces of thin stamped steel only held together by about a dozen tack welds on each side. The welds aren’t the highest quality either. When I was surface prepping, the welds were rusting underneath the paint and had numerous inclusions. I highly doubt that such a crudely constructed part would be heat treated, so I proceeded.
I seam welded the entire piece end to end, using small tack welds to judge how it would handle the heat, then I made .5”-1” long beads at time, alternating from side to side, until I was finished.
I allowed ample cooling time and refinished the part by dipping it into cold blue and then put 3 coats of VHT roll bar/chassis paint on it.
Good news is no warping of the part, and there was a noticeable improvement in roll stiffness. Multiple friends who have ridden with me have commented that the ride seemed harsher and they were not informed of what was done.
I plan on doing the front/rear subframes, possibly control arms too.
Anyone else tried something like this? Any further thoughts/refinements? Thanks for reading.
Which got me thinking, what other ways could I stiffen the chassis without adding too much weight or resorting to extreme/impractical measures like seam welding the chassis or adding a cage? I daily the car now so anything invasive is off the table.
What I decided to do was to seam weld the lower radiator support bracket. I noticed that it ties the ends of the subframe together, where the most flex occurs, and can unbolted from the car. Perfect place to add some stiffness, and also works on the same plane as the UR front power brace.
I went online and looked up prices for this piece. I was seeing about $80 new and as low as $27 used, so I didn’t have much to lose if something went wrong.
After removing it from the car, I noticed that it was made from two pieces of thin stamped steel only held together by about a dozen tack welds on each side. The welds aren’t the highest quality either. When I was surface prepping, the welds were rusting underneath the paint and had numerous inclusions. I highly doubt that such a crudely constructed part would be heat treated, so I proceeded.
I seam welded the entire piece end to end, using small tack welds to judge how it would handle the heat, then I made .5”-1” long beads at time, alternating from side to side, until I was finished.
I allowed ample cooling time and refinished the part by dipping it into cold blue and then put 3 coats of VHT roll bar/chassis paint on it.
Good news is no warping of the part, and there was a noticeable improvement in roll stiffness. Multiple friends who have ridden with me have commented that the ride seemed harsher and they were not informed of what was done.
I plan on doing the front/rear subframes, possibly control arms too.
Anyone else tried something like this? Any further thoughts/refinements? Thanks for reading.