2019 Civic Type R Spy Shots. Facelift?

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    Probably not, someone jokingly mentioned it in a post a few before mine.

    It would essentially be a weaker R type anyway.
     
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    maybe if they (Honda) does kill off the Type R, then maybe makes more sense for SI hatch ?
     
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    #78 Design, Jul 18, 2018
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    I agree. But I think the CTR will hold its value much better than other cars in its niche; primarily due to its projected reliability. I think this will follow a similar depreciation curve as previous USDM Si's. In 5 years, assuming Honda is till making & improving on these, you should be able to get a reasonably worn CTR for around $15-20K.
     
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    This car already maintains an edge over other vehicles on its segment, in part for the slow supply in comparison to other brands, a good example of this is the Golf R, its price it's going down faster. Ford can be noted too with its 2016/2017 RS model due their engine issue.


    With so many modular parts on cars nowadays, reliability is relative.
    Same ECU, Same transmission, same water pump, etc. We are actually buying the badge, but underneath, we share way too many same components with other car makes.
     
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    You can see the discs are now on a 'floating hub' like Audi RS models,Porsche etc, where instead of a 360 degree contact with the drum, discs are suspended and held by screws. Helps with heat dissipation. Suggests a higher performance breaking system despite non drilled....But is weird as on a car with smaller wing!!!
     
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    Yeah, but I'm not sure about the methodology in those studies. Doesn't it include little nagging things that are simple fixes covered under warranty? I think this article shows a better metric: https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/the-most-and-least-expensive-cars-to-maintain-by-maddy-martin It's cost to maintain for 10 years.
     
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    I prefer ventilated rear disc than a front 2 piece rotor
     
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    #84 Design, Jul 19, 2018
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    Here's an old shot of the 2017 against the 2019 in camo.

    As most are saying... aside from the grill inserts, nose, brakes and spoiler; the 2019 exterior arrangement looks unchanged.

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    Yeah the changes are subtle but reducing the amount of black honeycomb plastic will be a big win especially on the rear bumper cover that’s never looked right.
     
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    I think you guys are nuts for disliking the honey comb plastics. I rather have that plastics than rock chips
     
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    Either way, I am betting we will be able to swap those pieces right out for the new ones. The honeycomb pieces are 80 bucks a piece and pop right out and it appears all Honda did here was replace those pieces.
     
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    those articles are bs. hyundai and kia cannot be reliable cars. not possible. I owned a 1995 hyundai sonata. not reliable at all.
     
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    Both CR and JD Power use testing methodology up to 3 years. So they are "accurate" to a point.

    Others like YourMechanic and TradeQualityIndex factor long term reliability up to 10 years and beyond. That is where we'll see a much larger disparity between models. Historically, the Civic has fared very well in long term reliability the last 20-25 years.
     
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