2019 Civic Sport 6MT - Sedan or Coupe?

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    Hello, all! I'm new here but a long time Honda/Acura fan having owned everything from an '89 Accord LX (carb'ed) 5pd as the first car I bought on my own to a 2010 Acura TSX 6MT and a plethora of Accords and last year Prelude in between. I recently turned in the lease to my 2016 BMW 328i M Sport 6MT that I spent way too much money modifying tastefully. I now own my own business and work from my home office so I'll be buying a first gen Miata cream puff to satisfy the urge I've had to buy one of those ever since I got my drivers license. My gf's car (2016 Malibu Hybrid - junk) is due to end it's lease around July so we'll be looking to replace her car with a new Civic Sport. We decided on the Civic Sport as we are looking to buy a car either entirely outright or pay half of it down initially and pay it off in a year or so, so a $22K Civic fits that bill well. In addition, ever since I got my BMW she has learned to and enjoys driving a manual so a win-win there for me. My Miata will be the car I drive on occassion, in the moutains, and on nice days so the Civic will be our daily driver and car we take trips in. Also, as we plan to own this car outright, we plan on actually keepint it for the long haul (6-8 years) and I much prefer the simplicty of the 2.0L N/A motor with the manual. As we don't have any children we don't require a 4 door moving forward but rear doors do come in handy. In our opinion, the coupe looks slightly better than the sedan for virtually the same price but I'm trying to discern if there is any actual equipment differences between the two at all. It appears, according to the Honda website, be identical equipment wise. Am I missing anything?

    The only thing that kills me is the Sport, which is the ultimate value it seems, lacks LED or HID headlights. I've had them on my last few cars and have grown accustomed to them. Is it possible/feasible to buy the Touring model LEDs and just do a direct replacment. Coming from the BMW world, EVERYTHING you did on those electrically required an insame amount of work and coding and even then was hit or miss.

    Thanks in advance for the help. I'm looking forward to absorbing all of the new Honda info here as my in depth knowledge is back from the H22 Prelude days!
     
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    Just buy an si...youll be happier and not much difference in price
     
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    If you're going 2.0 go lx and just switch the radio and wheels...sport 2.0 isn't worth it if you're going the manual route..i can see getting it in cvt though
     
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    1.5t I would recommend. Also go coupe. It’s a sportier car so go all the way. Plus you won’t get those awful looking rear vents on the coupe. Tinting will be more expensive if you go si due to the wing being removed.
     
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    Good info. I (we) are deadset on the manual and I (perhaps being stubborn and old school for reliability) am dead set on the N/A 2.0. Perhaps the oil issues I've read about in the 1.5T are overblown but it was a concern. Plus, knowing myself, if I got another turbo I would go down the rabbit whole of tuning it, then doing intercooler, exhaust, etc. I do think the coupe looks more upscale compared to the sedan so that's where we are leaning. My reading shows the Sport trim to be only about $600 more than the LX but it includes Apple Car Play and better wheels amongst other things.
     
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    You would be better off just upgrading to LED or HID for $50 to $200. The direct replacement will cost you quite a bit.
     
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    I think you'll be satisfied with the 2.0 sport. The sport does offer nicer features such as the better seats, digital color instrument panel, Apple carplay/android auto, more speakers, and the way nicer looking appearance package over the LX. Also, if you get KTuner for the 2.0, it becomes pretty fun to drive especially with the 6 MT so you won't really miss the 1.5 unless you're really after more power. The answer is pretty simple, if you dont need the extra 2 doors then get the coupe. It looks better and is the body style I would get if i didnt need a sedan. Also, I myself own a tuned 2.0 with a a CVT and its pretty fun and never feels down on power :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks! Yeah, the Sport is the ultimate value for us. Again, we've leased plenty of luxury cars and right now are just looking for a great fun to drive value that we can buy outright or pay off in a year or less. For us, that's a $22K Civic. My Miata will be for the days I want to take the back roads to wherever. I didn't realize there was a tune for the 2.0. Interesting, I'll have to look that up.
     
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    Although we won't know for sure for at least another 5 years, the 2.0 will probably last longer than the 1.5T. On the other hand, unless you keep the car for more than 8 years, it probably won't make any difference to you. I suspect that the turbo problems probably won't occur until the vehicle gets old or very high mileage or if you abuse it or over-modify it. We do seem to have more problems reported with people who modify the performance or electrics than those who leave their cars stock.

    Note that the 2.0 manual does have some "rev-hang" that some owners find annoying and the manual is geared lower than the CVT. Long interstate drones in the manual will be more fatiguing and will get lower mileage. Test drive in all conditions is a must.

    The "sport" does look nice and the sedan has lots of room for 4 adults, or two adults and three children. The coupe looks cooler than the sedan, but is cramped in the back. Just depends on your situation which body style you get. You can get some cool colors with the coupe that are not available in the sedan. The bigger wheels on the sport do use a little more fuel and the manual uses a little more fuel than the CVT.

    The LX Coupe may be an alternative as you do get 16" alloy wheels but not the digital dash or head unit with Apple Carplay or Android Auto.
     
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    Can't go wrong with any Civic, they're all great little cars. I owned a few Chevy's and they are junk. Test drove a new Accord, and CR-V. Couldn't wait to get back into my Civic. It's fun to drive(especially with a KTuner). If you're looking to spend in the low 20k's, some here have negotiated an Si in that price range. The Si has LSD, stronger rods, and other advantages. Test drive and compare them. There's plenty of aftermarket support, so LED lights shouldn't be a deal breaker.
     
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    I'll probably do a proper HID retrofit with bi-xenon projectors like I did on a previous car. About $800 or so including professional labor but well worth it, in my opinion.
     
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    Sport Coupe 6speed really is one heck of a deal. $800 less than a cvt. I got the Si coupe but my second choice would be a manual sport coupe in practically any colour. They look great.
     
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    US doesn't have a LX 6MT coupe and the US price difference between LX and Sport is $800 while it's $3400 here in Canada.
     
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    I really don't think the sport is much different than the lx besides the gimmicky exhaust...I'll take the 4 grand savings and upgrade it myself. the si on the other hand will be worth more in the long run resale on 2.0 "sport" manual will be bad as a manual lx. Si buyers will always be there and ok with a manual. A sport cvt might hold a little more value tho just my opinion. I plan to keep my civic forever though. But for a savings of maybe 1500 why go for the sport in manual when you can get a si?
     
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    It took a very short period of time for me to get used to rev hand in my 6MT 2.0L. It was just annoying initially cause my previous manual was one of the old school Civic. Bonus with the slight rev hand, it helps with city cruising, so no need to blip for smoother downshift at lower speeds.

    Here in Canada 2.0L 6MT is the most bang for the buck, but not so much in States. Down there, price is close enough so that type of driving becomes a factor. On the highway, that 1.5T does well without trying hard, while 2.0 needs to get into Vtec mode which is a bit extreme.

    However in the city, 2.0L is more at home. For highway cruising, 2.0L is good enough to be assertive without having to downshift (high rpm end-gear doesn't intrude). I'm basing all this on 2.0L 6MT. CVT version has its own vibe.
     
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