therealcode
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- Adrian
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- Dec 12, 2017
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- 2018 Civic Si
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As my first thread - I hate to sound like I'm 16 (kinda feels like it after driving a '11 Mazda3 Auto the last 8 years) but this topic came up recently in a group of friends. Trying to figure out which car is faster and most of my car buddies involved in this debate/argument (anti-Honda folks) keep saying "no replacement for displacement"...
My buddy just bought a '14 Q50 sport package (not Red Sport - still the 3.7L NA) and keeps running his mouth he'll destory my car from a roll. We we're just supposed to have a quick friendly run from 60-120 but I guess his pride got the best of him and after him throwing a bunch of low-blow personal attacks it's turning into a more serious matter.
Now - my initial thoughts were, he's got 328hp @ the crank and 269 ft/lb of torque on a car that weighs 1,000lbs more. After considering drivetrain loss for his AWD - I figured it would be a pretty close race. If anything I wouldn't bet money but think my Si would pull on him @ 60mph especially with the tune (19.5/23 Starter).
I haven't been able to find any comparable races (except older Si vs. G37) on YouTube or the forums and would love to hear what you guys think. From the hole I'd obviously get destroyed (comparing 1/4 times, 6spd vs auto, traction...).
We're going to end up settling this on the track once they open up around here - but now he's wanting to wager a decent amount of chedda'. Rules are: His car will remain stock (excl tires) and I can do any mods I want (let's assume I only have ktuner and nothing else). Yes, he's a super cocky mf...
I found this dyno chart from a stock Q50 and the numbers are WAY lower than I expected... thoughts?
https://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-7083_dyno.pdf
PS: I WOULD just go for a quick highway run - but even though he was the one challenging me - after telling him it's tuned he suddenly thinks "racing a Honda isn't worth my time". Sounds like he's wimping out, but the sh*t talk doesn't stop unless I concede (which I won't unless I lose). Mentioning the extra 1K lbs, 17-25% drivetrain loss, and AWD racing from a roll disadvantage doesn't seem to phase him. He's a "more horsepower is more fast" and that's that.
PPS: I used to hate these kinda of posts when I was younger... But being out the game for a while want to know where I stand. I had a 12.1' sec '98 Eclipse GSX, tuned E36 M3, 240SX w/ turbo, MR2 gen2 turbo, 2011 Yamaha R6, then the '11 Mazda3 for 8 years... So coming back to scene trying to get an idea of where I stand nowadays.
My buddy just bought a '14 Q50 sport package (not Red Sport - still the 3.7L NA) and keeps running his mouth he'll destory my car from a roll. We we're just supposed to have a quick friendly run from 60-120 but I guess his pride got the best of him and after him throwing a bunch of low-blow personal attacks it's turning into a more serious matter.
Now - my initial thoughts were, he's got 328hp @ the crank and 269 ft/lb of torque on a car that weighs 1,000lbs more. After considering drivetrain loss for his AWD - I figured it would be a pretty close race. If anything I wouldn't bet money but think my Si would pull on him @ 60mph especially with the tune (19.5/23 Starter).
I haven't been able to find any comparable races (except older Si vs. G37) on YouTube or the forums and would love to hear what you guys think. From the hole I'd obviously get destroyed (comparing 1/4 times, 6spd vs auto, traction...).
We're going to end up settling this on the track once they open up around here - but now he's wanting to wager a decent amount of chedda'. Rules are: His car will remain stock (excl tires) and I can do any mods I want (let's assume I only have ktuner and nothing else). Yes, he's a super cocky mf...
I found this dyno chart from a stock Q50 and the numbers are WAY lower than I expected... thoughts?
https://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-7083_dyno.pdf
PS: I WOULD just go for a quick highway run - but even though he was the one challenging me - after telling him it's tuned he suddenly thinks "racing a Honda isn't worth my time". Sounds like he's wimping out, but the sh*t talk doesn't stop unless I concede (which I won't unless I lose). Mentioning the extra 1K lbs, 17-25% drivetrain loss, and AWD racing from a roll disadvantage doesn't seem to phase him. He's a "more horsepower is more fast" and that's that.
PPS: I used to hate these kinda of posts when I was younger... But being out the game for a while want to know where I stand. I had a 12.1' sec '98 Eclipse GSX, tuned E36 M3, 240SX w/ turbo, MR2 gen2 turbo, 2011 Yamaha R6, then the '11 Mazda3 for 8 years... So coming back to scene trying to get an idea of where I stand nowadays.
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