horrible tuners plain and simple. DRob and Derftuned never blew any type R's they've tuned and trust me they tuned a whole bunch
Lol on other cars sure but 10th gen civics they’ve been strugglingYou could have the best tuner in the world... and in the hands of a careless owner, it's going to blow. One overrev or missed OCI is all it really takes.
It's very difficult to badmouth any tuner when we don't know all the details leading up to the failure. I don't know Shawn or Daniel personally, but I know several guys tuned by them running well over 80-90K off their work.
The apparent difference? The guys I know datalog semi-regularly and actually care about how their cars run.
alot of them seems to blow by the use of anti-lag and has nothing to really do with the tune itself ...
Well antilag is a hondata thing lol they recommend it for their customer. Ktuner on the other hand has the option but tuners will disable for ya
it actually says not to use on stock engine but
the guy in the video is using hondata yes.
People like anti lag for the noise lol plain and simple.
If that is true that 385whp on our Si is way too much I find that a bit disappointing considering what the k series were capable of holding on stock internals. I guess that was expected though when going with a smaller displacement...
I'm not sure what people expect for a fully loaded car costing $22K with a LSD. To keep it at or around that price point, Honda built some room in it for some extra power, but didn't want it to compete with the CTR. They could have easily put in a detuned 2.0L like they did in the Accord Sport, but that would have brought the price closer to $30K. This car was built to have some fun, but at the same time be efficient, and a comfortable daily driver, and last 10 years or more. I don't know to much about the K series, but they are NA and I believe 2.0L engines that output their maximum power late into the rpm range. Once you start adding boost into that mix, the longevity of that engine would become more questionable without swapping internals
oh who knows. The tuner recommended for him to not run full E85 iirc but he did it anyways ...
you also have to realize, the K series were making that power on like 11lb of boost while these 1.5s are pushing alot more boost.
I guess im just comparing it to a previous platform of mines.. I had a 2005 SRT-4 (yes a neon) lol I pushed it to 450hp and around 460tq and I raced very often but I took good care of it when it came to maintenance. Oil change every 3k I had alot of fun with the car but took good care of it. when I sold the car in 2014 I was at 130k miles original motor and tranny and still running great the motor was a 2.4 so again a bigger displacement then a 1.5 so I guess its true what they say theres no replacement for displacement lol. But to answer your question about what people expect from a car in this price range I expected more considering the SRT-4 was in this same price range in 2003-2005 granted I will say in every other way this car is better then the SRT much better interior technology ect. but those neons were stout regardless of how much people bashed them.
