10th gen Si FBO + Tune vs 8th/9th gen FBO + tune

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I know the 8th and 9th gen make around 220whp with fbo and tune. What does the 10th gen make?
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Here are some numbers from a tuned tenth gen Si without any bolt ones, if that helps:

182whp / 206tq - Factory Calibration
208whp / 258tq - KTuner Starter 23psi
237whp / 281tq - TSP Stage 1 Tune
 

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Do you happen to remember what Vits stage 1 tune made? I'm trying to find it but he's removed his site. I'm still running his stage one and trying to decide if it's worth switching to TSP stage 1.
I do not recall what it was advertised at but remember that all dynos read differently. Try to find a comparison of his stage 1 tune and the same car while stock, on the same dyno. With that information you can compare it against other tunes.
 
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Here are some numbers from a tuned tenth gen Si without any bolt ones, if that helps:

182whp / 206tq - Factory Calibration
208whp / 258tq - KTuner Starter 23psi
237whp / 281tq - TSP Stage 1 Tune
I meant a real dyno tune
 

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A FBO 8th is a 98-101-ish MPH car. (Traps speeds vary more due to different bolt-ons)

A FBO 9th is in the same realm.

So, they are more on-par with a "stage 1" 10th gen. Comparing NA to turbo really isn't fair..
 


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Do you happen to remember what Vits stage 1 tune made? I'm trying to find it but he's removed his site. I'm still running his stage one and trying to decide if it's worth switching to TSP stage 1.
I’ve seen 2 or 3 people say it was worth the switch to tsp stage 1, even if you’re generally making close to same power there are more still more features since Ktuner had been updated so much(on the fly map switching etc.) I never made the switch from my vit stage 1 but that’s only cause I planned on getting custom tuned, I would’ve got tsp if I didn’t get a custom tune
 

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I meant a real dyno tune
Best way to compare would probably be to look through @drobimw and @derf.tuned instagrams or facebooks. They both tune a bunch of 8th-10th civics with various mods. That way you’re comparing with same tuner and dyno, still different day to day conditions tho.
 

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I know the 8th and 9th gen make around 220whp with fbo and tune. What does the 10th gen make?
Usually 235-250whp and 280-300tq
 
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A FBO 8th is a 98-101-ish MPH car. (Traps speeds vary more due to different bolt-ons)

A FBO 9th is in the same realm.

So, they are more on-par with a "stage 1" 10th gen. Comparing NA to turbo really isn't fair..
Who said anything about fair? Im asking for numbers
 


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Thats not too bad. Im hoping for close to 300whp/330tq with e85 after the dyno tune
I would be careful pushing 300 whp with stock Pistons rods and valves. I've heard of a couple of bent rods and blown engines
 

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Thats not too bad. Im hoping for close to 300whp/330tq with e85 after the dyno tune
Not on the stock turbo. Well, unless you dyno it at Churches, etc.

Also, define FBO. Do you just mean intake header and exhaust? Does it include IM's, TB's, etc.?
 
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Not on the stock turbo. Well, unless you dyno it at Churches, etc.

Also, define FBO. Do you just mean intake header and exhaust? Does it include IM's, TB's, etc.?
Thats what i mean. Im gonna get it dyno tuned there at churchs
 
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Not on the stock turbo. Well, unless you dyno it at Churches, etc.

Also, define FBO. Do you just mean intake header and exhaust? Does it include IM's, TB's, etc.?
I have downpipe/ frontpipe, 3 inch exhaust, cold air intake, front mount intercooler with charge pipes. I also have stage 3 clutch and lightweight flywheel, prl e85 kit
 

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Thats what i mean. Im gonna get it dyno tuned there at churchs
Okay. You do realize that dyno's are just a tuning tool and different dyno's will produce different numbers, correct?

For example, 220WHP is realistic for an 8th gen on a typical reading Dynojet. If this same car was dyno'ed at Churches, I expect it to be around 250WHP.

What are you actually trying to figure out/learn?
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