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  1. Should i wait for my ralleye red hatchback sport?

    Red not in production, yet...really? Perhaps the Canadian versions. There has been a RR CVT Sport HB here at a Colorado dealership for at least 10 days now. I have not seen it in person. Just the photo online. IMO, wait for RR. I am biased. I have owned red vehicle for 30+ years.
  2. Election Day

    Colorado has an all mail-in ballot, therefore, yes, I voted 10 days ago. I wish all states had that available since most people cannot take off work and have long commutes. There are lots of states without early voting. Popular vote count will not be known for weeks to come. However, electoral...
  3. Are you Impatient to buy the Model/Trim you don't really want...

    I want the Sport Touring. I have considered going to test drive the Sport & EX-L, however, I am afraid too. I do not want the temptation. I want a new car. I do not need a new car. Last Fall, I decided my '98 Civic HB would be replaced late this year. If needed, I can wait until early next...
  4. Anyone order a hatchback with sensing?

    Suggestion: Keep checking the honda.com Build option until it lists the Sensing option or Sport Touring. The site says "Please check back in November for full configuration experience."
  5. If you could do it all over again: would you buy another Honda?

    I agree if I only look at the car for money in and money out. As a new driver, my father said the same thing to me: "Cars are not an investment." In 1976, my father bought a brand new '76 Civic HB MT. He only looked to replace it in 1984 when the floor was rusting out. However, I look at the...
  6. If you could do it all over again: would you buy another Honda?

    ROI is very subjective and personal. IMO: Length of time owning the vehicle without new car payments and low maintenance costs. My '98 Civic HB cost $10,200 in 1998. It has had normal wear and tear things replaced. However, no repair coming close to the cost 2 month new car payment. If I had...
  7. How many of you have almost no issues with your Civic?

    AI software has learning functionality. It needs to collect data to become smarter and better. Starting with a very limited data set (default data set), it is not as smart. IBM's Watson is a prime example. I started driving at age 16. I was taught the basics during driving school. My initial...
  8. Google Pixel (Android 7.1) phonebook importing not supported?

    I am looking at replacing my Moto X 1st Gen with a Pixel before I buy the '17 HB Sport Touring. My Moto X Android 5.1 doesn't work with the HU I put into my Highlander: Pioneer 5100NEX. Thanks for the information and steps.
  9. Confirmed Manual Sport

    For Colorado, I just saw a WOP Sport MT added on cars.com Too far away for me to test drive. Coming from a '98 HB MT, I am interested in testing driving a Sport MT. However, I am likely to purchase a Sport Touring.
  10. US Hatch Sport Touring will be MSRP $29135?

    I was preparing myself for a price of $29000 + $835. $28300 for the ST softens the blow. This will be my first time spending that much on a "small" car. My '98 HB cost $10,200. Great ROI. The Sport and EX appear to be the best value trims. I now have the funds to pamper myself with a higher...
  11. Where are the Manuals?

    Good Point. East KS is very hilly. Worst gas mileage my CR-X ever had for highway was Westbound I-70 in Eastern KS with a horrible headwind. When I was driving through Kansas once per yr, the speed limit was 70 mph and near towns (not cities) it dropped to 60 or 65 mph. I don't know when they...
  12. Where are the Manuals?

    I-25 between COS and Denver: 75 mph speed limit & Monument Hill (7,352 ft). There are a number of workers who do this commute M-F. There isn't much grade leading up to the climb. There are widely varying grades on this route. I have driven the above route in both these vehicles: '98 Civic HB MT...
  13. If you could do it all over again: would you buy another Honda?

    My family and I have been buying Hondas since 1976 (1st Gen Civic). I learned to drive MT on my father's 1976 Civic. I went astray a few times: Subaru Impreza and Toyota Highlander. I only bought the Highlander because the Honda Pilot wasn't readily available since it had just launched. I have...
  14. 2016+ Civic VIN translator / decoder / guide

    Thanks to @amuraco posting: http://www.civicx.com/threads/2017-civic-specs-model-codes.6083/ Number 8 for HB: 2 - LX 3 - LX w/Sensing 4 - Sport 5 - EX 6 - EX w/Sensing 7 - EX-L Navi 8 - EX-L w/Sensing 9 - Sport Touring
  15. Can a 2017 Civic hatchback be ordered with Hondasense?

    Wait until November when Honda updates their Build option on their web site.
  16. Where are the Manuals?

    Personally, I would trust the VIN more than the typed in description. From the VIN translator thread: Number 7: A = coupe manual B = coupe CVT G = hatchback manual H = hatchback CVT EDIT: Number 8 for HB: 2 - LX 3 - LX w/Sensing 4 - Sport 5 - EX 6 - EX w/Sensing 7 - EX-L Navi 8 - EX-L...
  17. Ordering Process?

    I am considering the "ordering" tactic for a '17 HB Sport Touring Rallye Red. Rallye Red will likely be harder to get than the other colors. I have time on hands in late Nov-Dec. When Q1 2017 comes, I won't have time for car shopping. When Honda updates their site in November with HB Sport...
  18. '17 Civic Hatch EX-L quick pics, Aegean

    IMO, The chrome trim above the doors is aesthetically bad for all colors. The Sport and Sport Touring comes with black trim. I honestly do not know why car manufacturers are still using chrome as an accent trim choice. Perhaps because gray is a prevailing color on so many cars? My top 2 HB...
  19. Why 190hp with Turbo in CR-V?

    Since I live in Colorado and drive up mountain passes, I am doubtful the '17 CR-V's new hp of 190HP is adequate. However, I am very ignorant of how to interpret horsepower and torque for climbing a >7% grade mountain pass. My AWD Highlander is V6 at 220 HP. Premium fuel is recommended, however...
  20. CR-V or Civic Hatch ?

    I own '98 Civic HB MT & '02 Highlander AWD - both recently had minor trans issues. I fixed the Highlander and not the Civic because I believed it would be replaced soon. I have been a little torn on either replacing the Civic with a new HB or replacing the Highlander with the new CR-V. I LOVE...


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