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  1. What is the point of the "sport" trim?

    I test drove a 6mt Sport hatch; looks great on the outside, and the 1.5t was better than I expected. But this trim is seriously stripped down; a $16k Hyundai is much better equipped. I'd get a Sport Touring if it offered a 6mt, but alas, looks like Honda doesn't want my money. GTI it is I guess.
  2. Why I think there is going to be a Hatch SI

    At least in the Mid-Atlantic, GTIs are selling for $6k+ below sticker. Sport trim for <$23k, Autobahn <$29k (6MT models). Discounts on the Si will be slim to none for at least 6 months after release, and my lease is up in May. I'd prefer Honda due to dealership proximity/depreciation/perceived...
  3. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    In my area, I see dozens of 2016 6MT Autobahns (w/ PP and LP) on Cars.com for ~20% off (~$27k, $34k MSRP); most are red for some reason. That may include some rebates/incentives you don't qualify for (recent college grad, military, etc). But you can get $500 off for being a SCCA member at most...
  4. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    That's why I said I'd lease a GTI; return it just as the bumper-to-bumper warranty expires. I'm not convinced VW will be solvent in three years either, so I don't want to be stuck with extra depreciation due to that (I say this as a former Saab owner). The current ~20% discounts on GTI Autobahns...
  5. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    I won't be upset if there is no Si Hatch, I'll just go lease a GTI Autobahn for ~$250/month (GTI discounts are insane right now). VW understands that 6MT buyers can also prefer leather/HIDs/active safety/sunroof/etc.
  6. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    Unless you're a glass-empty person. Then you'd say Honda bumped up the HP/Tq for the Sport/6MT hatch models to compensate for a hole in the lineup between the regular Civic hatch and the Type-R.
  7. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    Toyota offers the Sienna and Highlander in their "Sport" trim, SE. I won't argue that a Sienna SE is in any way "Sporty", just sayin'.
  8. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    I don't know about other buyers, but I like my 6MT cars to have some luxury features also. 2016 GTI Autobahns with Performance Pack and Lighting Pack (~$34k MSRP) are listed all over Cars.com for ~$27k; that'll be my pick in May when my lease is up unless Honda offers an Si Hatch with...
  9. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    There is a touring, it's just called "Sport Touring" here.
  10. 2017 Civic Hatchback U.S. Model Lineup Revealed, Including Sport Model

    From this I deduce that the "Sport Touring" trim will be CVT only (since it only has one entry). I hope there is an Si hatch, and that it offers a higher-spec trim. Judging by GTI inventory on Cars.com, the Autobahn (top spec) trim is the most popular for 6MT-equipped models. I wonder why Honda...


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