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Any answer other than the Miata is crazy.

A thread like this shouldn't even be allowed to stay alive :P I'll wait for the formal announcement from Honda or a reputable source before believing there won't be any refresh.

It wasn’t vague. I don’t think there’s anyway to do what you want. The system is most likely limited by processing power.

I think my desires are more aligned with which one has more potential. I’ve read about all the issues with the touch screen HU, so figure as far as that goes the sport hatch might be a better starting point. Easier to upgrade. Same with the suspension being possibly more difficult to mod...

I’ve been in the market for a sporty commuter for a while, was sold on the Si, then Type R, and after failing to buy one of those for MSRP, I’m back in the camp of “What do I want?” I’m more recently thinking I’d be happy with a Manual Hatchback Sport, and do some of the mods myself. Stiffer...

I gave up contacting dealerships, but I will revisit in a few weeks if stock sits. Anyone need any changes done to the sheet?

Here you go Banshee, let me know if you want anything changed. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bB5IIWdqYHwXejxKvm-gqh8mgZ4sMDnwUwz9whUmzQI/edit#gid=514038955

I'll add a sheet to the document, and see if I can link to it directly.

Yup that's not hard to do either. I only protected the title row, so anyone should be able to do pretty much anything, if there's any good ideas out there.

Sure, we can do that. Or maybe by timezone or West Coast / East Coast? Not sure how to best do that. 50 tabs could get messy.

Sure, that's fair. I mainly didn't like seeing all the incorrect information in the OP of the naughty list thread. I've contacted nearly every MSRP dealer on that list and have received 0 back at sticker price.

This may be a bit overboard, but a few people were asking in the naughty dealer thread for a spreadsheet, so I started one. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bB5IIWdqYHwXejxKvm-gqh8mgZ4sMDnwUwz9whUmzQI/edit?usp=sharing Please feel free to update / correct / add information as you see...

Let's just start one! Here - I'm actively making it right now. Tweaking format / will make it easier to follow. MSRP collumn will be Yes/No and will highlight green if yes. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bB5IIWdqYHwXejxKvm-gqh8mgZ4sMDnwUwz9whUmzQI/edit?usp=sharing

Just heard back from the letter I sent to Honda corporate customer service. The guy said he unfortunately had no specific information (of course) on if Honda is going to be able to do anything about it. I informed him about how Dodge is handling the Demon sales, and essentially punishing...

Well, it's done. Also sent a copy of the letter to a couple of the people on their corporate email contact list that someone else linked to. I don't personally expect anything to change / benefit from it at all, but I do hope that honda cracks down on the worst offending dealerships. Especially...

Yes. I've personally contacted almost every green "MSRP" dealer at the top of the post, and they've all had 5 to 10K ADM.

I've decided that while it most likely won't do any good, I'm going to send a letter to corporate, detailing my experiences with dealerships and mention some of the worse stories from this thread. What a bummer this all has been.

Can someone dig up a few email addresses we can send messages to simply saying how unhappy everyone is with all this ADM nonsense, and how terrible some of these experiences have been? My correspondence with dealers over the last week have been by far the worst experiences I've ever had car...

Gods speed my friend.

Auburn Honda in California actually shows TWO Type Rs in transit. Emailed them and received a "Sorry, but they are marked at $10K ADM, and no dealer is below that" I told him that while MSRP seems to be impossible to find, I can get one for $5K ADM all day. He replied back and said "our network...