Toyota Camry destroyed me civic wtf

silverblip said:

Your CVT didn't help you either.

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tinyman392 said:

Remember, a CVT has the ability to be perfectly at the power band providing maximum power until it's reached its minimum gear ratio that it could provide. This, of course, assumes the CVT is programmed to do this and doesn't have those fake shifts in there (I believe low-gear mode may get rid of that).

That being said, the power to weight ratio is still considerably off.

• Si = 205 HP, 2900 lbs -> 14.1 lbs/HP*
• Sport = 180 HP, 2900 lbs -> 16.1 lbs/HP*
• Camry V6 = 301 HP, 3500 lbs -> 11.26 lbs/HP
• Accord 2.0T = 252 HP, 3400 lbs -> 13.49 lbs/HP*

We do know that in a lot of cases that Honda's advertised power numbers are low, in some cases to the point where their wheel horsepower can be nearly their advertised and in some cases even higher. We know that the Accord 2.0T and Camry have a very similar quarter mile and 0-60 time, which would suggest that the Accord 2.0T has a higher crank HP than advertised, or the Camry has a much lower crank HP that advertised (assuming the same powertrain losses).

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tinyman392 said:

It's not much better in USD, about 550/month. Though that's not unreasonable for a 35k car, but at that point you might as well buy it outright through a loan. If you really wanted a V6 Camry, I'd do the TRD over the XSE, the only major downside is that it doesn't have passthrough seats due to the stuff they added in the rear to increase rigidity, it goes for 5k less or about 450/month. The TRD Camry is the cheapest way to get the 301HP V6 NA motor.

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MorrisGray said:

I would think that torque has something to do with the numbers also. The Camry only has what? 267ftlb
vs Accord with 273ftlb. Not saying I know but just guessing the more torque has to help.

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MorrisGray said:

I would think that torque has something to do with the numbers also. The Camry only has what? 267ftlb
vs Accord with 273ftlb. Not saying I know but just guessing the more torque has to help.

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Dwight said:

It's a cvt

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AVR said:

I guess you never watched fast and furious right

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Dwight said:

So I was driving along late night around 1am the road was clear when a Camry flew pass me full speed so I decided to catch up to him at red light and oh boy he pulls down his window and nod his head ....so as the green light came on I floor my car in L gear also was on map 3 of tsp tune i was able to keep up with him for about 4 seconds and then this Camry just run away and left me about 4 to 5 car lengths ahead of me I was shocked so is the Camry way faster than a 1.5 cvt turbo civic on tsp map 3 tune ? Dude I was like what da actual fuccc

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biosses said:

You tried to out do a camry in your 1.5L CVT..lol. maybe your civic against corolla

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gtman said:

I've had no troubles against numerous V6 "family sedans" (Accord, Altima etc.) in my tuned CVT 1.5T with TSP Stage 1 and stage one intake setup. Around 220 whp and nearly 250 tq moves 2900 lbs. pretty good out on the highway.

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biosses said:

i'm not bashing your set up or anything. it seems like unfair comparison. how much you spent total on your set up?

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mauiSI19 said:

I’m pretty sure he said that because that joke doesn’t make sense when it’s not an MT car.

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