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Honda MTF is low 20 weight with cSt of 6.3 or something close to that. Amsoil MTF on the other hand is around 9.6cSt and is a 30 weight. So, there's quite a bit of the viscosity difference between the two.
Interesting. I thought it used to be more of a 30w some years back... and not just because 5w-30 motor oil was an approved substitute.

I wonder if they changed the formulation in the last decade or so to make it lighter still?
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Interesting. I thought it used to be more of a 30w some years back... and not just because 5w-30 motor oil was an approved substitute.

I wonder if they changed the formulation in the last decade or so to make it lighter still?
Yessir, it has changed. Old manual said 5w30 as a temporary replacement, current one says 0w20.
 

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I've read elsewhere that Amsoil is bad in the winter but is it worse than Honda MTF in the winter?

Is there a recommended MTF specifically for cold winters (I am in Chicago)?
 

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Yes, Amsoil is way over hyped here....but better is better and there is an improvement. Currently I find it’s much better when the trans is cool, still summer here though. Once up to operating temps, meh, it’s a tiny bit better than Honda MTF. The telltale will be a Canadian winter and as the mileage piles on...I’ll keep it in for a year unless it is shit in the winter. The other one to try is GM Syncromesh, another top notch MTF. Time will tell, so far I’m happy but it is still over hyped and anyone saying Honda MTF is crap doesn’t know how to drive a stick.
How did it perform in the winter for you?
 

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How hard is it to change your MTF? Complete noob here; I could probably barely do an oil change by myself
 


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How did it perform in the winter for you?
Mild winter this year but when it does get cold it doesn't shift as well on AmsOil as it did with Honda MTF until warmed up. A couple of second gear lockouts and crunches, so I just shift WAY slow until the transmission has some heat in it.
 

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Mild winter this year but when it does get cold it doesn't shift as well on AmsOil as it did with Honda MTF until warmed up. A couple of second gear lockouts and crunches, so I just shift WAY slow until the transmission has some heat in it.
We hit -40 in Edmonton but at that point I think either fluid will be thick.
 

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Mild winter this year but when it does get cold it doesn't shift as well on AmsOil as it did with Honda MTF until warmed up. A couple of second gear lockouts and crunches, so I just shift WAY slow until the transmission has some heat in it.
Did you use the 5-30 or 0-20 AmsOil?
 

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How hard is it to change your MTF? Complete noob here; I could probably barely do an oil change by myself

Probably as easy as an oil change. It's two plugs. A drain plug and a fill plug. Oil goes out bottom, then you pop open the top (may have to remove air filter case but that's like 3 or 4 bolts) and fill it up with two quarts using a long funnel. There's lots of youtube videos out there of folks doing it.
 


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I did Amsoil MTF on 2 other Honda/Acuras including this one. The viscosity is about the same honestly... they're both ~30 weight. The Amsoil has always performed better... smoother shifts, better cold weather performance in the winter. Notchiness substantially improved or downright eliminated. The 3rd gear pop-out in my RSX cured.

I have tried thicker Syncromesh gear oils... but I found, in the winter, they performed unacceptably because the shifts were overly difficult until the transmission was warmed up.
You have some pretty brutal winters in Georgia?
 

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You have some pretty brutal winters in Georgia?
;) You got me. The RSX days were about 10 years back in upstate NY and would get down in the -15F range. Georgia rarely sees anything less than the 20s. I could probably use 75 weight gear oil here and still be ok.
 

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How hard is it to change your MTF? Complete noob here; I could probably barely do an oil change by myself
Alright so I just changed mine for the first time today. Maybe not SUPER beginner friendly but with some patience you can do it. If you don't have an impact to get the fill plug loose then I think you'll probably have to take air box out in order to get enough leverage to get it off without a bunch of your torque being lost through extensions. With an impact it was pretty damn easy. Definitely make sure you can get the fill plug off before you drain! Also make sure it's off/loosened when you start to drain so it'll flow smooth.
 

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How hard is it to change your MTF? Complete noob here; I could probably barely do an oil change by myself
Its easier than changing oil. There's only one drain plug and no filter. Just helps if you're running an aftermarket intake because it's easier to get to the fill plug.

I just changed mine after running the stock fluid for 42k. I went with the same fluid as the OP (Royal Purple SynchroMax) and it's noticeably better than before... And it's been pretty cold here.
 

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Alright so I just changed mine for the first time today. Maybe not SUPER beginner friendly but with some patience you can do it. If you don't have an impact to get the fill plug loose then I think you'll probably have to take air box out in order to get enough leverage to get it off without a bunch of your torque being lost through extensions. With an impact it was pretty damn easy. Definitely make sure you can get the fill plug off before you drain! Also make sure it's off/loosened when you start to drain so it'll flow smooth.
If you get yourself a long 3/8” extension (I got a harbor freight set some years ago and I think I used the 12 or 18’’ one) and one of those transmission funnels consists of a funnel with a tube... it’s stupid easy. You don’t have to remove anything to accomplish it. Without enough extension to reach or trying to fit a funnel down there... it’d be a bit harder and more time consuming. Still plenty was enough to DITY.
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