Brake Bleed Sequence

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Per Honda (Source: ShopkeyPro)

Bleeding Sequence:
Front drivers side (outside bleeder then inside bleeder)
Front passengers side (outside bleeder then inside bleeder)
Rear passenger side
Rear driver side

Apply and release the parking brake 5 times then bleed the rear brakes again (Note: When bleeding the brake system, air can get trapped inside the rear calipers. This is due to the complex fluid path inside electric parking brake calipers. Therefor, this procedure is necessary)

Front Bleeder Torque Spec: 14 lb-ft
Rear Bleeder Torque spec: 17 lb-ft
What is outside bleeder then inside bleeder mean? Isn’t there only one bleeder valve in front driver side?
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What is outside bleeder then inside bleeder mean? Isn’t there only one bleeder valve in front driver side?
havent done it on the CTR but brembos on my old TL had two bleeders. One on the inside of the caliper and one on the outside.
 

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What is outside bleeder then inside bleeder mean? Isn’t there only one bleeder valve in front driver side?
The Brembo calipers on the Type R are a fixed caliper, meaning they have pistons on both sides and 2 bleeder screws on the caliper to bleed each side vs your traditional floating caliper that has a piston on one side.
 

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The Brembo calipers on the Type R are a fixed caliper, meaning they have pistons on both sides and 2 bleeder screws on the caliper to bleed each side vs your traditional floating caliper that has a piston on one side.
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I'm at 44,000 miles. 2 years, 1 month old. Never tracked. "Spirited" driving daily.
Maintenance due is oil change, tire rotation, and brake fluid replacement.
Checked water level in brake fluid. Still in the "OK" range, which equates to "less than 2%." I'll change it at next oil change.
Thanks for the sequencing confirmation !

Honda Civic 10th gen Brake Bleed Sequence IMG_20190731_192416
 
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I don't have the exact part number, but I believe most modern Honda's have the same fluid cap. This same cap fits on my 2018 R and 2012 Odyssey.

The Motiv universal kit doesn't really work for Honda, as I spent a lot of time but no seal.

The retro-fitting is not hard at all. I basically held the universal kit on one hand, and the Honda cap in the other. You will need a few pieces from HomeDepot (metal adapter and instant glue). Use a drill to open up the back of the Honda cap. Fit the adapter from the back of the cap then to the vinyl tube from the universal kit. Apply lots of instant glue and check for leaking.

My local dealer wants $270 for a brake bleed on my R. This retro-fitting costs me ~$20 and 40 minutes. Cheers,
 


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Awesome i'll need to look into doing this. the universal cap is a pain in the ass.
 

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Apologies, I’m very interested in learning how to do this but am a newb and this went right over my head. Can you please explain again what is needed here and what it’s used for?

Thank you

I don't have the exact part number, but I believe most modern Honda's have the same fluid cap. This same cap fits on my 2018 R and 2012 Odyssey.

The Motiv universal kit doesn't really work for Honda, as I spent a lot of time but no seal.

The retro-fitting is not hard at all. I basically held the universal kit on one hand, and the Honda cap in the other. You will need a few pieces from HomeDepot (metal adapter and instant glue). Use a drill to open up the back of the Honda cap. Fit the adapter from the back of the cap then to the vinyl tube from the universal kit. Apply lots of instant glue and check for leaking.

My local dealer wants $270 for a brake bleed on my R. This retro-fitting costs me ~$20 and 40 minutes. Cheers,
 

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Interested in a picture of this cap for the power bleeder.

I use the power bleeder for the s2000 and also experience problems with seal with the universal adapter.
 
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This is my home made,adaptors with OEM honda cap and motive universal bleeder. It actually has excellent seal, and loses maybe 2 psi in 20 minutes. Cheers

Honda Civic 10th gen Brake Bleed Sequence 20190913_173732
 

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bumping this, you can buy a cap on amazon that will fit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYXAXS5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To make it work with the motive bleeder, you'll need 3/8" ID tubing, 3/8" ID barb to 1/4" MIP, and 2 hose clamps. Picked the hardware from home depot.

Just assembled the cap with the tubing and it appears to hold pressure well. The cap doesnt seem to screw all the way past the locking bump at least with the MC's filter in place, but it will hold up to 10 lbs pressure easily.
 


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bumping this, you can buy a cap on amazon that will fit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYXAXS5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To make it work with the motive bleeder, you'll need 3/8" ID tubing, 3/8" ID barb to 1/4" MIP, and 2 hose clamps. Picked the hardware from home depot.

Just assembled the cap with the tubing and it appears to hold pressure well. The cap doesnt seem to screw all the way past the locking bump at least with the MC's filter in place, but it will hold up to 10 lbs pressure easily.
Thanks! Why Motive doesn't make a non-universal cap for Honda boggles the mind. It's literally a money printer with millions of Hondas on the streets. I'm glad there's an alternative and looks cleaner too. People are resorting to using clamps on the universal cap and when it doesn't work it gets really messy!

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bumping this, you can buy a cap on amazon that will fit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYXAXS5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To make it work with the motive bleeder, you'll need 3/8" ID tubing, 3/8" ID barb to 1/4" MIP, and 2 hose clamps. Picked the hardware from home depot.

Just assembled the cap with the tubing and it appears to hold pressure well. The cap doesnt seem to screw all the way past the locking bump at least with the MC's filter in place, but it will hold up to 10 lbs pressure easily.
Just letting you know I am the one on amazon that reviewed this with the s2000.

Don’t buy any 3/8” I’d barb to 1/8” for the adaptor side, I bought a bunch from amazon and none of them screw into the adaptor. I just stuck with the silver fitting that came with the adapter and used the original 3/8” tubing from the Motive bleeder with quick connects from harbor freight
 

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Also I recommend using the motive bleeder DRY,

So you will never have to replace the tubes that they recommend to do every year or few years.

I read stories of failed tubing and brake fluid splattering all over car due to old tubes on he Motive
 

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Just letting you know I am the one on amazon that reviewed this with the s2000.

Don’t buy any 3/8” I’d barb to 1/8” for the adaptor side, I bought a bunch from amazon and none of them screw into the adaptor. I just stuck with the silver fitting that came with the adapter and used the original 3/8” tubing from the Motive bleeder with quick connects from harbor freight
Yea I read another Type R owner who reviewed the cap on amazon and left the existing barb on the cap alone. 3/8" tubing and a clamp fits over it fine. then the 3/8 barb > 1/4 MIP will hook up to the existing motive end.

I've also read about those failures too, so we'll see what i do when its time. With this screw on cap it'll be easy to refill unlike with the crappy universal cap.
 

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Also I recommend using the motive bleeder DRY,

So you will never have to replace the tubes that they recommend to do every year or few years.

I read stories of failed tubing and brake fluid splattering all over car due to old tubes on he Motive
Would you mind explaining the process of using it dry? I thought you fill the thing with brake fluid and it forces the old stuff out. How do you use it dry?
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