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Well I will take your word on it. The last VW I owned was an 86 GTI. Fun car, but expensive to maintain and problematic. Don't get me started
I hear you man ! The 2003 Jetta TDI I had was also expensive to maintain good engine but parts weren’t cheap and it had great fuel mileage both city and highway and also not very fast It was one of my top 3 slow cars 63 rambler,86 escort and 03 Jetta
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I've had several people tell me how Jdmpookie's car was just so fast it was beating everything. People don't seem to understand that basic math can essentially tell you how fast a car will be. A fwd 279whp, 2900lb car is going to be nothing more than a mid 13 sec car that traps 103-105mph, so slower than pretty much any current V8 out there. Roll racing 4000lb+ BWM with a V8 that puts down 240-250whp is absolutely nothing to brag about.
Y’all talking about him like he’s the fastest SI out there when there’s more and more people in the 11s club. Who haven’t blown up. LOL.

He isn’t even at the pinnacle of what some people are pushing the 1.5L to.

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Y’all talking about him like he’s the fastest SI out there when there’s more and more people in the 11s club. Who haven’t blown up. LOL.

He isn’t even at the pinnacle of what some people are pushing the 1.5L to.

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no disrespect meant to JDMPookie.
No we aren't. Pretty much any platform has cars in the 11's. Jdmpo0kie running flex fuel to try to hang with outdated or overweight V8's is nothing to write home about.
 

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Y’all talking about him like he’s the fastest SI out there when there’s more and more people in the 11s club. Who haven’t blown up. LOL.

He isn’t even at the pinnacle of what some people are pushing the 1.5L to.

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no disrespect meant to JDMPookie.
Where can I sign up for this 11s club? Show me the dotted line!
 

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I hear you man ! The 2003 Jetta TDI I had was also expensive to maintain good engine but parts weren’t cheap and it had great fuel mileage both city and highway and also not very fast It was one of my top 3 slow cars 63 rambler,86 escort and 03 Jetta
Ya'll making too much of the vw being unreliable. 136k miles as of this morning countless canqda/mexico trips and drags trips, still strong. 135k on my A5 3.2 v6(2008) still strong. not even a dealer visit for repairs! as i have said many times before. People that bought these car didnt know what they were getting into. and that accelerated problems. to this day i see people coming in at dealers or repair shops for their annual 10k miles oil change..:eek:. imagine how they treat cars on daily bases. imagine what they think of preventative maintenance.
 


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Ya'll making too much of the vw being unreliable. 136k miles as of this morning countless canqda/mexico trips and drags trips, still strong. 135k on my A5 3.2 v6(2008) still strong. not even a dealer visit for repairs! as i have said many times before. People that bought these car didnt know what they were getting into. and that accelerated problems. to this day i see people coming in at dealers or repair shops for their annual 10k miles oil change..:eek:. imagine how they treat cars on daily bases. imagine what they think of preventative maintenance.
Not saying it’s unreliable I got my Jetta when it was over 100k the expense of the parts ( diesel in general) are not cheap to maintain plus diesel aren’t known to be the fastest
 

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Not saying it’s unreliable I got my Jetta when it was over 100k the expense of the parts ( diesel in general) are not cheap to maintain plus diesel aren’t known to be the fastest
Well its beei an ongoing broken record here for quit of few and its not entirely true .no one buys diesel to go fast .. although there is turbo kits out there and not that expensive visit dragtimes website you'll be surprised
 

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Well its beei an ongoing broken record here for quit of few and its not entirely true .no one buys diesel to go fast .. although there is turbo kits out there and not that expensive visit dragtimes website you'll be surprised
True they don’t buy it to go fast at the time my Tiburon GT got totaled and I needed a car bought the Jetta from my brothers wife not fast but the best fuel mileage car I had other than the civic
 

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Ya'll making too much of the vw being unreliable. 136k miles as of this morning countless canqda/mexico trips and drags trips, still strong. 135k on my A5 3.2 v6(2008) still strong. not even a dealer visit for repairs! as i have said many times before. People that bought these car didnt know what they were getting into. and that accelerated problems. to this day i see people coming in at dealers or repair shops for their annual 10k miles oil change..:eek:. imagine how they treat cars on daily bases. imagine what they think of preventative maintenance.
I respect everyone's choice of car, and as a car enthusiast, I try to look at different cars from all angles, both their strengths and weaknesses. As far as VW's (and other German/Euro cars), I came from a family of VW owners. I've owned the following VW/German cars: 1979 VW Dasher, 1975 VW Rabbit, 1986 VW GTI and 76 Mercedes 280S. As far as VW's go, my experience has been they drive amazing, are fun and handle well, but they all suffered from the same issues...excess oil consumption and leaks, overheating in the summer (I grew up in SoCal where summers, and winter LOL can be brutal...by that I mean HOT brutal), and electrical issues. I woke every day or walked over to my cars not knowing if they would even start. The GTI which I bought new was a bit better, but still suffered from excess oil consumption and running hot in stop and go traffic and on days that reached 90F.

In 1995 I was in the market for a new car, and my brother in law pushed me into buying a Toyota. I bought a 95 Corolla LE 5 speed manual, and never looked back. This car never had a mechanical issue, and was passed down my family until it reached my nephew, at over 200K, in 2016 he traded it in for a Prius thru a program called Cash for clunkers. I've pretty much been buying Toyotas for the last 25 years, my three current ones are a 2006 Camry SE V6 with 145K, and 2013 Toyota Sienna with 135K, and my current 2010 IS350 with 60K. I had a 2018 Si for a bit over a year, but it wasn't the car for me, driving a MT in traffic everyday was taking a toll on my back, although it was a good car for what paid.

I have a lot of friends and co-workers that drive BMW's, Mercedes and other European cars, and I have to say they have a different mindset of what "routine maintenance" is than me. Taking their cars to the dealer constantly for what they perceive as minor issues is as normal to them as taking my Toyota's in for an oil change twice a year, except I only take them in twice a year. For me if you own a car for 10 years and your taking it in for issues other than routine maintenance (oil, filter, brakes) than I would only lease that car, and it seems most of the people I know who drive Euro cars do so for 3 to 5 years
 


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Ya'll making too much of the vw being unreliable. 136k miles as of this morning countless canqda/mexico trips and drags trips, still strong. 135k on my A5 3.2 v6(2008) still strong. not even a dealer visit for repairs! as i have said many times before. People that bought these car didnt know what they were getting into. and that accelerated problems. to this day i see people coming in at dealers or repair shops for their annual 10k miles oil change..:eek:. imagine how they treat cars on daily bases. imagine what they think of preventative maintenance.
After doing much research, I came to the same conclusion (for the most part). IF you're mechanically inclined and willing to put in the work yourself, VWs can be affordable to own. However if you're like me and can't change a lightbulb, you should stay away. That's why I chose the Si over the GTI, although I still lust after GTIs whenever I see them. Fun cars.
 

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I respect everyone's choice of car, and as a car enthusiast, I try to look at different cars from all angles, both their strengths and weaknesses. As far as VW's (and other German/Euro cars), I came from a family of VW owners. I've owned the following VW/German cars: 1979 VW Dasher, 1975 VW Rabbit, 1986 VW GTI and 76 Mercedes 280S. As far as VW's go, my experience has been they drive amazing, are fun and handle well, but they all suffered from the same issues...excess oil consumption and leaks, overheating in the summer (I grew up in SoCal where summers, and winter LOL can be brutal...by that I mean HOT brutal), and electrical issues. I woke every day or walked over to my cars not knowing if they would even start. The GTI which I bought new was a bit better, but still suffered from excess oil consumption and running hot in stop and go traffic and on days that reached 90F.

In 1995 I was in the market for a new car, and my brother in law pushed me into buying a Toyota. I bought a 95 Corolla LE 5 speed manual, and never looked back. This car never had a mechanical issue, and was passed down my family until it reached my nephew, at over 200K, in 2016 he traded it in for a Prius thru a program called Cash for clunkers. I've pretty much been buying Toyotas for the last 25 years, my three current ones are a 2006 Camry SE V6 with 145K, and 2013 Toyota Sienna with 135K, and my current 2010 IS350 with 60K. I had a 2018 Si for a bit over a year, but it wasn't the car for me, driving a MT in traffic everyday was taking a toll on my back, although it was a good car for what paid.

I have a lot of friends and co-workers that drive BMW's, Mercedes and other European cars, and I have to say they have a different mindset of what "routine maintenance" is than me. Taking their cars to the dealer constantly for what they perceive as minor issues is as normal to them as taking my Toyota's in for an oil change twice a year, except I only take them in twice a year. For me if you own a car for 10 years and your taking it in for issues other than routine maintenance (oil, filter, brakes) than I would only lease that car, and it seems most of the people I know who drive Euro cars do so for 3 to 5 years
now you comparing a gti to a corrolla, a bmw to a camry.. two veryyyy different aspects of cars. toyota does even make a car that is priced or is in the same bracket as a GTI or even a GLI. People buy toytas for veryy different reason someone would buy a bmw or even a gti. this is why lexus came along but so did the pricing;). But still not cigar on the gti bracket. I had 2 scion xb(toyota) in the family 1 with 240k miles 1 with 100k,. GUESS why we bought them.. to save money and have reliable work horses. we got rid of one gave to a close friend of mine. and we bought diff cars. GUESS WHAT i wanted a GLI as a daily commuter so waited until their 3gen motors came out and opted for the 1,8t instead of GLI. bcz i want a S3 or S4 later on. so the 1.8t turned into another work horse... that is until i hit pot hole doing 65mph in highway and bent a wheel.. it all followed course as my previous turbo cars
 

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now you comparing a gti to a corrolla, a bmw to a camry.. two veryyyy different aspects of cars. toyota does even make a car that is priced or is in the same bracket as a GTI or even a GLI. People buy toytas for veryy different reason someone would buy a bmw or even a gti. this is why lexus came along but so did the pricing;). But still not cigar on the gti bracket. I had 2 scion xb(toyota) in the family 1 with 240k miles 1 with 100k,. GUESS why we bought them.. to save money and have reliable work horses. we got rid of one gave to a close friend of mine. and we bought diff cars. GUESS WHAT i wanted a GLI as a daily commuter so waited until their 3gen motors came out and opted for the 1,8t instead of GLI. bcz i want a S3 or S4 later on. so the 1.8t turned into another work horse... that is until i hit pot hole doing 65mph in highway and bent a wheel.. it all followed course as my previous turbo cars
I get that, different cars for different uses, and different people. I wasn't trying to do an apple to apples comparison, I apologize if that was what it seemed like. For me personally, I would rather take reliability over performance. As an example, I would buy a 2010-2011 IS F with 100K on it that's been tracked over let's say a newer BMW M3 (E92 or E93) with low miles, even though the BMW outperforms the IS F, because frankly, I know I won't have to put an additioanl money aside to maintain the IS F. My Help Desk guy has an earlier M3, I think it's an E90 with 130K on it, and he has already had to change the head gasket and valve stems, and he doesn't track it or abuse it
 
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MK7 GTI and R make great power and get relatively quick with just a few mods. I had a 17 GTI fbo on cobb with a protune and was going to get back into a 19 for a DD but it turns out the MK7.5 have some kind of stalling issue so I settled for the SI.
 

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MK7 GTI and R make great power and get relatively quick with just a few mods. I had a 17 GTI fbo on cobb with a protune and was going to get back into a 19 for a DD but it turns out the MK7.5 have some kind of stalling issue so I settled for the SI.
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