Honda should have made an Si hatch

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The reason I've heard that there's never been an Si hatch is because the Si is a NA trim level only, with the hatch being built in England, so it didn't make sense to build a trim level in England that was only being exported to the NA market. Now that the England plant is closing and the hatch will be built in the US, here's to hoping they'll build an Si hatch.
For clarity, before this gen, there were numerous iterations of Si hatchbacks (made in Japan) sold in America. Personally, I like the simple, cleaner look of those old hatches. With some cosmetic mods, they looked great.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/honda-civic-si-history/

Modded 2005 Si hatch

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I wholeheartedly agree. As someone who was in the market for all three cars (Civic hatch, Corolla Hatch, Civic Si) The hatchback form factor is 99% the reason I went with a Sport hatch over the Si sedan... after the 2016 LX sedan, I was not interested in another sedan at all... but if the Si was offered as a hatch I would have jumped on it.
 

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I think an Si hatch would be great, and I might prefer it to the sedan, largely because it's shorter and thus easier to park in the city.

I might actually prefer something like the Sport Touring hatch, but with the Si engine, steering, dual-mode suspension, and LSD. That would be a more direct competitor to the mid-trim GTI--a sport compact with a little luxury. Give it Acura's 8DCT as an option, and it might sell in decent numbers. Frankly, for the price I think the Sport Touring hatch should have the Si's engine anyway.
 

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I think an Si hatch would be great, and I might prefer it to the sedan, largely because it's shorter and thus easier to park in the city.

I might actually prefer something like the Sport Touring hatch, but with the Si engine, steering, dual-mode suspension, and LSD. That would be a more direct competitor to the mid-trim GTI--a sport compact with a little luxury. Give it Acura's 8DCT as an option, and it might sell in decent numbers. Frankly, for the price I think the Sport Touring hatch should have the Si's engine anyway.
Now we’re talking DCT I’m with you on that:thumbsup:
 


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I think an Si hatch would be great, and I might prefer it to the sedan, largely because it's shorter and thus easier to park in the city.

I might actually prefer something like the Sport Touring hatch, but with the Si engine, steering, dual-mode suspension, and LSD. That would be a more direct competitor to the mid-trim GTI--a sport compact with a little luxury. Give it Acura's 8DCT as an option, and it might sell in decent numbers. Frankly, for the price I think the Sport Touring hatch should have the Si's engine anyway.
just having any automatic with gears versus the CVT would be a huge upgrade in my opinion.
 

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just having any automatic with gears versus the CVT would be a huge upgrade in my opinion.
I got used to the CVT when I was driving my sister Jeep the other day I thought something was wrong with the transmission...... but then again it is a Jeep o_O
 

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SI Hatch would be a winner IMO. I definatlely would have preferred it to my Coupe. Sedan was out of the question for me style wise.
 

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SI Hatch would be a winner IMO. I definatlely would have preferred it to my Coupe. Sedan was out of the question for me style wise.
I was looking at a red sport touring hatch when I got my coupe It was bouncing around in my head..I like coupes or two door hatchbacks if a coupe wasn’t available I would have bought a hatchback. We’ll see in the next generation civic if they make a SI hatch and maybe option a DCT ( if they still have the coupe then I would probably go with the coupe):)
 

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Think about the already extensive Civic lineup...

With the 2.0NA models, you have a Sport coupe and sedan in addition to the basic LX model.

With the turbo sedan and coupe, you have a variety of trims plus the two Si versions.

Then of course there's the Type R flagship model.

But let's concentrate on the hatchbacks here. You have numerous trim levels including the Sport (and upscale Sport Touring). Basically, the Sport/Sport Touring have the Si sized wheels and tires, a freer flowing exhaust and slightly more power than the other trims. Bring in an Si hatch and it muddies things up a bit in my opinion.

I think the only way the hatch lineup works with an Si is dropping the Sport trim (but maybe keep the ST and just renaming it "Touring"?). Something like this:

LX ~ EX ~ EX-L ~ Si ~ Touring
 
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For clarity, before this gen, there were numerous iterations of Si hatchbacks (made in Japan) sold in America. Personally, I like the simple, cleaner look of those old hatches. With some cosmetic mods, they looked great.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/honda-civic-si-history/

Modded 2005 Si hatch

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They were dope little cars. My best friend got one when they first came out in 02. That one looks amazing. If it came with K20 that revved out to 8k it would've been even better. This is my second favorite Si next to the 10thgen. I still to this day would love to get my hands on one.

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Think about the already extensive Civic lineup...

With the 2.0NA models, you have a Sport coupe and sedan in addition to the basic LX model.

With the turbo sedan and coupe, you have a variety of trims plus the two Si versions.

Then of course there's the Type R flagship model.

But let's concentrate on the hatchbacks here. You have numerous trim levels including the Sport (and upscale Sport Touring). Basically, the Sport/Sport Touring have the Si sized wheels and tires, a freer flowing exhaust and slightly more power than the other trims. Bring in an Si hatch and it muddies things up a bit in my opinion.

I think the only way the hatch lineup works with an Si is dropping the Sport trim (but maybe keep the ST and just renaming it "Touring"?). Something like this:

LX ~ EX ~ EX-L ~ Si ~ Touring
I agree with you on the point that they would probably need to drop the Sports Hatch if they decided to bring in an Si hatch. The problem with that is there are a lot of Sports trims on the road (I see at least 3 or 4 a day) because of the CVT and an option offered for a manual, and I doubt there are a lot of manuals on the road with this option. Without the CVT option, the Sports and Touring would not be as popular. That's the dilemma
 
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They were dope little cars. My best friend got one when they first came out in 02. That one looks amazing. If it came with K20 that revved out to 8k it would've been even better. This is my second favorite Si next to the 10thgen. I still to this day would love to get my hands on one.

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Very solid engine, the problem is you will never get a car like this again because of safety and emissions as well as strict fuel economy standards that will only get stricter
 

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Think about the already extensive Civic lineup...

With the 2.0NA models, you have a Sport coupe and sedan in addition to the basic LX model.

With the turbo sedan and coupe, you have a variety of trims plus the two Si versions.

Then of course there's the Type R flagship model.

But let's concentrate on the hatchbacks here. You have numerous trim levels including the Sport (and upscale Sport Touring). Basically, the Sport/Sport Touring have the Si sized wheels and tires, a freer flowing exhaust and slightly more power than the other trims. Bring in an Si hatch and it muddies things up a bit in my opinion.

I think the only way the hatch lineup works with an Si is dropping the Sport trim (but maybe keep the ST and just renaming it "Touring"?). Something like this:

LX ~ EX ~ EX-L ~ Si ~ Touring
I see what you’re saying, but I think, historically, Honda has used Si, SiR, and Type R hierarchically, in that order. So, adapting your trim ordering:

LX ~ EX ~ EX-L ~ Touring ~ Si ~ SiR ~ Type R

All of these could be (or have been) hatches.
 

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The reason I've heard that there's never been an Si hatch is because the Si is a NA trim level only, with the hatch being built in England, so it didn't make sense to build a trim level in England that was only being exported to the NA market. Now that the England plant is closing and the hatch will be built in the US, here's to hoping they'll build an Si hatch.
If this happens, instead of upgrading to the next gen Type R when I can afford (hopefully), I would seriously consider going for a next gen Si with the hatch variant and then spend a bit of the money saved not getting the R on wheels/tires/suspension/exhaust etc.
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