Refreshed 2020 Civic Type R, here it is!

My dealer told me same timeline for a 2020 arriving March or April so will see.

Holy Crap can you imagine how much this is going to cost. People are already saying $37,000 is too much for a civic, but imagine paying $50G's for it then add dealer mark ups...your going to be looking at a ridiculous over priced Honda civic.

xdecemberguy said:

Holy Crap can you imagine how much this is going to cost. People are already saying $37,000 is too much for a civic, but imagine paying $50G's for it then add dealer mark ups...your going to be looking at a ridiculous over priced Honda civic.

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MSRP will probably be just under $40K. I don’t think ADM will be too much of issue past maybe the first few months or so.

Zeffy94 said:

MSRP will probably be just under $40K. I don’t think ADM will be too much of issue past maybe the first few months or so.

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In Midwest and some NE states, ADM won't be a factor. Anything west of the Rockies there will be ADM until the current CTR gets either replaced by next gen or discontinued completely.

Zeffy94 said:

MSRP will probably be just under $40K. I don’t think ADM will be too much of issue past maybe the first few months or so.

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Thats what I am thinking.. My dealership has one being built in feb so I might be getting into one in late march/april. I am curious to know if they will be adding any new accessories. I dont mind paying MSRP and about 1500 in accessories . so much for the rumor the car not being here anytime soon ROFL.

civicmanic said:

Refreshed model includes multiple performance improvements, with revised aerodynamics, engine cooling, suspension, and upgraded brakes.

That's directly from the OP. I will take it at face value unless the source is known to be fake news? Seems you know something about it I don't.. what's your reason for being so suspicious?

PS. Boost blue is my favourite colour Kool aid.

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Those are CHANGES not known, nor time tested, nor proven IMPROVEMENTS!
All performance gains are merely speculation at this time.

Agreed on the Boost Blue Looks delicious!

MediaMaster said:

I'm 70 and buying a 2020. Enjoy life and remember money is not everything, your time and enjoyment is much more important.

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Could not agree more

Learn2turn said:

Those are CHANGES not known, nor time tested, nor proven IMPROVEMENTS!
All performance gains are merely speculation at this time.

Agreed on the Boost Blue Looks delicious!

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Clearly Honda made those changes for the betterment of the car. Not just shits n giggles. But hey, if your faith in Honda's R&D is so miniscule, I am not sure why you'd ever consider getting one anyway.

kilo959 said:

If you’re seeing the difference 60 lbs makes, I hope you’re trying out for your racing license.

no offense.

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No offense taken, I didn’t say mean me. That said you’d be surprised at what 1 pound here or there adds up to.
If you get rid of stock wheels like most do, it could make up for weight added

omar0123 said:

There will be many looking perfect, most ctr s are hardly used as daily drivers

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I’m a rare breed what can I say.

The 2 piece rotors are probably lighter, which is where loosing lbs counts the most. I do not know how much the tech stuff would add, but I am sure it would not be noticeable.

y4ngel said:

Lease on my S3 ends in a year, so it's between buying the new blue CTR or Golf R for me.

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How'd you like your S3? Test drove one today and enjoyed the drive. The only downside is the rear seat legroom is probably too small. With driver's seat adjusted where I'd want it, when I sat in the back, my knees touched.

civicmanic said:

Clearly Honda made those changes for the betterment of the car. Not just shits n giggles. But hey, if your faith in Honda's R&D is so miniscule, I am not sure why you'd ever consider getting one anyway.

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Or they made it based off feedback. Changes by Honda aren't always welcomed and don't always improve performance. Take a look at the AP1 and AP2 for example.

Either way no one will know until reviews come in. I'm skeptical about the weight savings on the brakes since they went from drilled to solid rotors. Seems like going back to a solid rotor negates the savings of going 2 piece. I'm curious if the brake squeal is the reason behind the change...

I still think the aluminum hat on the 2 piece vs the previous drilled version is going to be lighter. It will be less unsprung weight and better at "dispersing" heat.

ycehcky said:

I still think the aluminum hat on the 2 piece vs the previous drilled version is going to be lighter. It will be less unsprung weight and better at "dispersing" heat.

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Aluminum absorbs and conducts heat much like copper hence why it’s used in heat exchangers. Steel on the other hand is a poorer conductor better suited for higher temps.

Aluminum heats up and radiates heat very quickly.