Refreshed 2020 Civic Type R, here it is!

CivilciviC said:

We're all entitled to our opinions, but my opinion tells me the 2020 CTR is by far the worst of all the model years. It's supposed to be an angry, aggressive, enthusiast derived car and yet people are jumping up and down in excitement that they get fake engine noise, driver's nannies and a softer suspension. Hard pass. And I assure you, my SO and I are nowhere near concerned about buying a new 2020, when it comes to dollars and cents. I just don't know why I'd pay more for what to me is clearly a lesser car.

That's cool if it's for you, but as someone who loves driving, these are just about the worst changes Honda could have made. Feel free to call me a hater all you like but after the initial ownership group, I get the feeling people will be looking at every other year but the 2020s, unless they specifically want the Boost Blue color. And I'm guessing the reason Honda watered down the 2020 is to keep sales going as best as possible. A watered down car results in more sales. Simple as that. Many enthusiasts have already scooped up a CTR in 17-19. Honda is looking to broaden it's market by watering down the car for even more people to take notice.

I'm glad you are buying a 2020, though. And I hope plenty of other people do too. This is the only way we get another generation of the CTR.

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Andruboine said:

Ive got a 72 month loan to have a low payment but am paying extra to pay it off in 2-3 years. Same thing with a house payment The interest collects on the front end so pay off more in the beginning and you’ll come to the same rate except in an dire emergency you have the option to lower your payment without intervention from the bank.

If you have a low interest rate that you can make up for through other investments it doesn't matter.

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MediaMaster said:

I understand it's only your opinion, but you could at least try using facts.

There have been NO positive comments on this forum for the piped in engine noise.

Probably less than half want the nanny options, and neither do I.

Honda has not said that the suspension is softer, they have made adjustments: "Suspension revisions for 2020 will include updated dampers for better ride comfort, stiffer rear bushings for better grip, and modifications to the front suspension to reduce friction and improve steering feel."

Why would a watered down car result in any more sales?

Since none of us has driven the car and no reviews are as of yet available speculating on performance is just hot air.

As to the rest of you arguing that this (Honda Sensing) will add so much weight to the car and negatively affect it's handling. Stop and think about how much a couple of go-pros weigh, add to that 8-10 sensors made of plastic and the wire to get all the signals back to the central processing unit and you might get all the way up to 10-15 lbs. If you look at most Americans they could lose 10 lbs off their gut and no one would even notice.

It looks to me that the CPU and software handle most of the work. The hardware for much is already on the car.

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JohnEBlaze said:

I agree and interested to hear reviews. I’m curious about the front suspension changes...

Is this because the lane assist and Honda sense use motors which in turn change overall steering feel? There’s clearly a difference if you’ve driven cars with and without said options.

Bottom line is those who want a more bare R have their car and those wanting more of a GT car with amenities have what they want.

The best part is the updates can be added to older model years for a minimal cost.

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various cheeses said:

I'm sure it adds a trivial amount of weight to the car. The camera box on the windshield can't weigh much. The main issue is that it adds another level of padding between you and the driving experience. Also not thrilled about the reports of false positives on the auto-braking. It'll be real nice when some dumbass in an SUV isn't paying attention on the highway, your system sees a shadow, and decides to unexpectedly stab the brakes - especially considering the CTR has a stopping distance that rivals some supercars.

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Zeffy94 said:

one time it slammed the brakes out of nowhere despite not needing to

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coopermidnight said:

That should have been sufficient motivation to sell the car immediately.

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JohnEBlaze said:

Take a look in the payment thread, there’s someone paying something absurd like $805 a month.

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02SilverSiHB said:

lol, that's bad...please tell me that's not on a 72 month loan...bad enough on 60

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civicmanic said:

Meanwhile, with its improved braking and cooling, this is likely best performing R ever on the track. You're being just a tad hysterical.

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tinyman392 said:

That doesn’t seem too out of line for a 48 month loan if they got some extras with the car or put 0 money down.

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davemarco said:

If you're living in the world of median incomes (~$60K in the U.S.), $40K for any car is too much.

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alvav said:

$2-3k off deals? That’s the profit (if not more) that a dealer has in a Type R. And Honda certainly isn’t going to put any cash incentives on the Type R.

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