Does anyone have any experience with this race chip?

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Itā€™s probably a bit inflated. Audiworld has a bunch of reviews. The support for racechip isnā€™t the same as jb4
 


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Please no. While we recommend KTuner, I can tell you there are multiple options out there that are better than the "Racechip".
 

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Please no. While we recommend KTuner, I can tell you there are multiple options out there that are better than the "Racechip".
Hi Two Step,
Thank you for being an Elite Sponsor.

Is there any chance that you sell products that compete with others in this thread?

I have no loyalty to any one yet but find it interesting we donā€™t consider that KT and Hā€™data both disable engine safety protection and tweak ECU software, a possible warranty void evidence situation if anything major occurs. RC doesnā€™t address the ECU and worst case, ghost tracks would show something changed but since not in hand (easily removed before servicing). Itā€™s improbable and nearly impossible to prove it was root cause of a failure if you HAD but no longer HAVE a piggyback tuning device ( including ODBII fixed/dynamic ā€˜fuel mix adj) chips that tune.

Modified ECUs are instant warranty killers if OEM can prove they caused failure, Exhibit A vs something used to tweak engine used to be here. The protective law helps some (another chip brand I have in other vehicles recently won in court).

Piggybacks although maybe not as flexible as HD & KT (they can be remotely changed and pushed) can achieve similar gains with less risk. In the case of Race Chip who I have no vested interest in other than being a prospective customer, they offer a 2 yr 48K mile engine warranty besides a separate one for devices.

You say there are multiple options out there better, do you sell them? If so, congrats and tell us about your line(s) but then your inputs are no longer neutral, objective.. if no, define better if you or others donā€™t know specifics?

Others hint of not knowing much so it must be bad by saying probably. I donā€™t think anyone here knows much about RC other than theyā€™re at least #3 in their opinions that I respect they can express. Iā€™ve spent the last week checking them out before letting them tune my toy.
The RC Corp is worldwide and must be doing something right expanding reach beyond Germany into USA and Far East, Worldwide, established in 2008.

They have yet to produce a Type R tune kit although one exists overseas to the East. Theyā€™ll soon have a US product as my stock R is helping them develop that tune. They didnā€™t want to use a Cali emmisions R or one modified as baseline, I fixed that quest by letting them define and refine the tune for this kit ( my K&N air filter otherwise stock R put out 295 HP at wheels today.

I will get some consideration for this (between them and I) but that means Iā€™m no longer objective, but Iā€™ll base my opinion on results, dyno facts and subjective improved fun to drive improvement, not popularity or supposition.

Iā€™m interested in all opinions but would like to know those that need filtering from vendors, and discount those that donā€™t know any better by not taking time to find out specifics.

So, I like ice cream but I havenā€™t tried frozen yogurt. I wonā€™t say it probably sucks and no one should buy it though unless Ive tasted it and knew ingredients were toxic, posting that for dessert aficionados.
Point is, try to remain transparent (TBD for me at this point) so members can fairly assess your valuable contributions that make CivicX so interesting.

Iā€™m guilty of the same thing sometimes, just not now, weā€™ll I donā€™t hate RC b/c theyā€™re better than another solution as I donā€™t want total control. I do want to pick a mode (on the fly) to go faster, or slower and save some fuel (the reg Civic 13.2 gal tank is about the closest to a flaw I can find so far).

Iā€™ll gladly share what I find out, about RC and their products but since theyā€™re local, customer service has been great even if just exploring +\-.

Iā€™m not going to publicly post dyno results but a trusted few may get viz.

Lots of fairy tales, no horror stories abound for RC and few other than happy endings. The VW, BMW, and MB folks embrace RC as it works well for them, not probably, it just does. Iā€™m positive they have the ability via 3 profiles, to offer those like me in the minor bolt on tweak Er class (am getting Borla ATAK soon though) another alternative, released gosh knows when at this point, will know more in 2-3 biz days.
 
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the reg Civic 13.2 gal tank is about the closest to a flaw I can find so far).
Are you sure your Civic has a 13.2 gal tank? You might be in for a surprise. Do post dyno charts when you've the results; quite a few people are interested in verifiable piggyback solution. You'll be doing the forum a service.
 


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Are you sure your Civic has a 13.2 gal tank? You might be in for a surprise. Do post dyno charts when you've the results; quite a few people are interested in verifiable piggyback solution. You'll be doing the forum a service.
Tank is smaller than 13.2, merely 12.4 gallons.

With these awesome R seats I could go more than 330 miles between fillips and fill downs (bathroom breaks). YMMV nP2.
 

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Are you sure your Civic has a 13.2 gal tank? You might be in for a surprise. Do post dyno charts when you've the results; quite a few people are interested in verifiable piggyback solution. You'll be doing the forum a service.
I second this. I don't know what you have to gain by keeping any dyno testing you do secret, or what you have to lose by posting up your dyno.
 

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I second this. I don't know what you have to gain by keeping any dyno testing you do secret, or what you have to lose by posting up your dyno.
I get it, really.

How many posts with dyno results are on Civic-X?
i work for a different service vs Race Chip or this forum but will share all I personally feel comfy with.

I was invited to witness and record video of the final dyno runs this afternoon and may post an edited video on YouTube, might not be public view by all. Could need a link and/or permission, not sure yet.

My comfort level is this, Iā€™m going to ask the company that provided some undisclosed consideration what they prefer me to share/not share and respectfully do just that.

Iā€™ll surely do some sort of review on social media, which TBD.

If it turns out thatā€™s less than full release, I should be able to share actual portions somehow.

There are many variables at work when doing these measurementsā€” temperature, altitude, fuel, age, humidity, airflow, car temp, and of course the dyno itself that can skew our results compared to baseline and between locations (NW FL near sea level) and wherever others are that would get different results if same dyno and car were just moved there. Using other equipment matters some too so donā€™t expect any of us to exactly duplicate what another pull does, some can very 10 hp or more back to back, usually less than that.

These are arenā€™t excuses in advance for the results, variation is typical and factual even if you canā€™t always ID what happened

I saw it happen with my ā€˜17 on Ridgeline (that was 2ā€ too long wheelbase to fit this shops 4wd dyno). The , other place near here can do big trucks but only 2wd.

Having said all that, stock (except K&N air filter) baseline in cooler AM was 295 HP at the wheels (not sure what torque was) and thatā€™s is 10-15 more than expected with 306 HP spec engine, even running 93 octane.

I and they anticipate 25-40 HP gain and a bit more than that for torque as they tend to go higher in low-mid RPMs with more rolloff near redline than original but still higher overall.

Theyā€™ll keep my R locked in shop for the weekend and I will take it home after a multiple location conference call they have Monday to confirm all internationally agree settings used are exactly how they want for U.S./Canada Type R.

I can keep track cars location regardless but trust them anyway.

it may be a early-mid Feb before the Race Chip 17-19 Type R kits are ready to ship they said.

H & K gangs move over? Dunno but I do know a new alternative that keeps eng safety controls in place. I also know from their German car results this isnā€™t snake oil.

Looking at either Borla ATAK or AWE Touring exhausts sometime before Spring. Return tweak covered by RC.
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