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At the end of a normal reflash the main relay clicks, the low pressure fuel pump primes and the wastegate actuator does a little dance.

I would like to know if the switch off message comes up before this reset - normally the message is 5-10 seconds afterwards.
Ah, that's right, I have it backwards...been a while since I did it...but yeah, now that you mention it, I do remember the message coming up afterward
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At the end of a normal reflash the main relay clicks, the low pressure fuel pump primes and the wastegate actuator does a little dance.

I would like to know if the switch off message comes up before this reset - normally the message is 5-10 seconds afterwards.

If you can't switch off the ignition normally at the end of a reflash don't even bother to try and start the vehicle. Upload to the FlashPro again and reflash again. Don't be paranoid that this happens to everyone as it is very rare.
Are you talking about during a "return to stock" flash, or flashing a tune? Flashing a tune it will make the usual noises upon completion, but still fail to start right up. Return to stock it wasn't making noises after being completed, I waited maybe 10 seconds before shutting the car off, but the car started right up
 

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At the end of a normal reflash the main relay clicks, the low pressure fuel pump primes and the wastegate actuator does a little dance.

I would like to know if the switch off message comes up before this reset - normally the message is 5-10 seconds afterwards.

If you can't switch off the ignition normally at the end of a reflash don't even bother to try and start the vehicle. Upload to the FlashPro again and reflash again. Don't be paranoid that this happens to everyone as it is very rare.
Hey,

Yes, the switch off message appeared before the reset (this was after using the latest Hondata firmware, never happened on previous firmwares).

1. Flashed Car via laptop
2. Hondata program prompted to switch off ignition
3. Car was still cycling through error codes on the dash
4. Pressing the ignition to turn it off caused the car to beep and ignore the request.
5. Car was still cycling through the light, once finished, the car turned off
6. I was able to turn the car on again and the new map was applied already.
 

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I see that there is a gap in the calibrations for 93 whereas the 91 has a high flow cat option.

I'm pretty sure that the DP calibration will work with the cat DP but need to check with our tuner that this is accurate. In the meantime use the plain 93 octane calibration (with or without improved throttle response).
@Hondata have you gotten a chance to speak to your tuner ? Thanks.
 


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Hondata was kind enough to send me a version of flashpro manager/firmware last week that resolved my issues stated above. Such a relief getting the tunes to apply the parameters I chose and more importantly having the car start right up no matter what.

@Hondata are you guys planning on releasing a PRL HVI, Titanium inlet, and intercooler w/charge pipes basemap anytime soon?
 

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I doubt any of those items require a special calibration.
If it helps I verified my datalogs and another friend datalog both with charge pipes, turbo inlet and intake and they look fine.
 

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Ok, that's good news. I'm sure torque targets/boost had to be reduced some with all 3 in tandem plus the other post turbo bolt ons. When I switched from the stock intercooler hoses to the prl ones I had to reduce my tourque requests because 3rd gear would Max out the fuel pump after, though 4th on were fine as is. The bigger inlet and better intake plus the bigger cold side charge pipes are going to make this crap fuel pump struggle.

At this rate I'll have my car paid off before my HVI and inlet finally ship... Lol
 


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i'm learning more about the hondata flashpro in anticipation of getting one after the breakin period =)

i have a question on the Turbo max ratio (temp) table.
after some reading I think understand how this table works.

but my question is at the max IAT2 reading of 90deg C, the boost seem very conservative.
i think at the track IAT2 (maf sensor) will for sure be over 90deg C in the typical socal track days

for ex. 90deg C IAT2, 6000rpm, the value is 2.3
assuming sea level 101kpa
101kpa x 2.3 - 101kpa = gauge boost pressure of 131.3kpa (19psi)

is this considered conservative boost for this car? is the limiting factor the turbo size, or the fuel system? or something else?
at first i assumed it was the turbo size, but then i see it's much higher in the 100octane map.

on a side note, with the torque request type of ecu, what if you request a torque but set a low turbo max ratio, what would happen then? would ecu attempt to reach the torque another way? or it would be simply be limited by the turbo max ratio table?

Thank you !!

Honda Civic 10th gen FlashPro for CTR tuning results upload_2020-1-11_17-24-48
 

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another question is, since the ecu is using ve model and torque request to calculate fueling, why is the closed loop lambda table needed?

for ex. if you are able to reach the target torque request value on the dyno already, then you richen or lean out the closed loop lambda table, let's just say that change is suppose to increase the torque. Would ECU allow that extra torque ? or would it run a different lambda value then what's in the lambda table for that load point?

on the flip side, let's say you set a torque request value for a load point, and the car is not able to reach the target torque on the dyno. How do you know if it's the closed loop lambda that you need to adjust?
 

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i was comparing the e25 vs 93 octane map, and it appears the torque request and boost related tables are the same
so i'm trying to understand what cause the torque increase in this highlighted area

I think i found my answer in the air charge limit table. but i'm not understanding why a lower Airc% in the e25 map, made more torque in that area.

Honda Civic 10th gen FlashPro for CTR tuning results upload_2020-1-11_17-57-30
 


 


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