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I just purchased a ktuner for my ctr a week ago and can't return it even though it's brand new in the box never been used. I just read this thread today. Is there any way I can unlock with FP software but use my ktuner? I EXTREMELY regret getting ktuner after seeing this thread.
you are in socal. There are tons of CTR owners around here.
you can ask one of the guys to let you borrow their flashpro real quick and then jail break it. I'd help you if you but your a few hours away.
 

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Any info on why double payment did it not send you the email on the first payment I plan on doing this today
 

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I just purchased a ktuner for my ctr a week ago and can't return it even though it's brand new in the box never been used. I just read this thread today. Is there any way I can unlock with FP software but use my ktuner? I EXTREMELY regret getting ktuner after seeing this thread.
You ever find someone local with a FP to help you? Hope you got it worked out!
 


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If you do find someone, ask them if you can test out their traction control. It's a free software addition worth over $600 which helps you:
Reduce tire wear
Corner faster​

We've had racer reports that their CTR can take the same corner faster in the wet with Hondata Traction Control than they can in the dry without traction control.

So there you have it. Faster and safer. (and much smoother at part throttle)
 

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My experience with the instant jailbreak was amazing. Took like 30 sec like Hondata mentioned you do have to check your emailed receipt for the code. Besides that no issues to bad i will not add any bolt ons, I will just use the 91 or 93 octane with no add ons. Wish they had the 100 octane with no add ons.
 

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I have intake so i used 91 octane with intercooler and on the add box i put injen intake
 
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@Hondata. I assume each tune (even the conservative tunes) reduce margin in various parts of the engine. If so, what are the long-term consequences of tuning the car using Hondata tuning? Thanks and pardon the naive question!
 


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The question is not naive. If you drive your car hard, abuse it and neglect service you will reduce the life of the engine. If you take care of these aspects your engine will last a long time. Two CTRs from Team Honda Research West have run a cumulative 120 racetrack (two 25 hour endurance events each in 2018 and 2019) and practice hours over the last 2 years at 370 hp and > 400 lb ft torque. The engines are in perfect condition.

As part of the design evaluation process for an engine, Honda will run the engine for 8 days at peak power - 6500 rpm. Immediately after that they run the engine for a further 8 days at peak RPM ~ 6700 rpm.

In 4th gear at 6700 RPM, these tests are like driving more than twice around the earth's equator without lifting off the throttle. Is that strong enough for you?

Honda build their engines well and test them thoroughly.
 
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The question is not naive. If you drive your car hard, abuse it and neglect service you will reduce the life of the engine. If you take care of these aspects your engine will last a long time. Two CTRs from Team Honda Research West have run a cumulative 120 racetrack (two 25 hour endurance events each in 2018 and 2019) and practice hours over the last 2 years at 370 hp and > 400 lb ft torque. The engines are in perfect condition.

As part of the design evaluation process for an engine, Honda will run the engine for 8 days at peak power - 6500 rpm. Immediately after that they run the engine for a further 8 days at peak RPM ~ 6700 rpm.

In 4th gear at 6700 RPM, these tests are like driving more than twice around the earth's equator without lifting off the throttle. Is that strong enough for you?

Honda build their engines well and test them thoroughly.
Thank you for your reply. The implication is that data from Hondaā€™s testing is evidence to companies, such as yourselves, that the tuning made possible by you wonā€™t have any negative bearing on the engine or other components in properly maintained fk8s. So, consider two fk8s, one purely stock and the other with an aggressive Hondata tune, you guys are saying both cars will have the same lifetime if maintained property and not abused? This is surprising to me, given the difference in power output between the two versions.
Crux of this is me wondering if Iā€™m gonna reduce the lifetime of my fk8 if I tune it to add 50 horse power. I guess the answer is not.

Anyways, thanks again. As you can tell, Iā€™m no motorhead, so I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
 

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Thank you for your reply. The implication is that data from Hondaā€™s testing is evidence to companies, such as yourselves, that the tuning made possible by you wonā€™t have any negative bearing on the engine or other components in properly maintained fk8s. So, consider two fk8s, one purely stock and the other with an aggressive Hondata tune, you guys are saying both cars will have the same lifetime if maintained property and not abused? This is surprising to me, given the difference in power output between the two versions.
Crux of this is me wondering if Iā€™m gonna reduce the lifetime of my fk8 if I tune it to add 50 horse power. I guess the answer is not.

Anyways, thanks again. As you can tell, Iā€™m no motorhead, so I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Iā€™m sure that the tunes exert additional stress outside the parameters that Honda intended. Iā€™m sure that you may see possible oil life reduced, spark plug life reduced, even fuel pump issues over time (since it is operating at higher duty cycle for longer times - outside calculated mtbf). You may even see dirtier pistons. Etc...

However we do have some information.

- As noted the race teams use it and most likely use a more aggressive tune.
- The tunes provided by Hondata are described as conservative, with some head room.
- There hasnā€™t been any cases yet (that I know of) if anyone running the base maps and destroying their engine (though we would need a much longer sample time as the car only came out in 2017).
- Honda themselves have noted that the engine had room left in it (there was an interview with the lead engineer by a AU magazine, I think where he mentioned it).

With the above and knowing that one may have to more judiciously check and replace oil(s), plugs, look for good fuel (logs for knock to find premature pump issues as the car ages into the upper 50-100k miles), it would seem plausible to entertain that the Hondata base map tune will not ā€œaffectā€ the engine as so far as ā€œdestroyā€ or accelerate its ā€œdestructionā€ beyond what could be reasonably calculated as its EOL total running working cycle time taking into consideration random atmospheric conditions and standard calculated error rates (I.e. engine life is also calculated in high temp scenarios like an arid climate such as the Middle East and such must use different oil and/or change it more frequently).

Nonetheless one could further surmise that a base map tuneā€™s ā€œworking environmentā€ would be equal to or slightly greater than that of a harsh and active arid climate. As far as conditions go.

But so would the original claim of running on a racetrack.

I donā€™t run the car on the track with the frequency that the others here have, so I do feel somewhat safe to know that the engine has yet to blow up after being utterly beat on in extreme conditions.

Just my 25 cents. Pop it in candy machine or throw it in the pond.
 
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I raced my daily driver company car - B16a CRX on the track for a total 24 hours over a 2 year period. It ran in one of the following three states:
Full acceleration peaking at 120 mph each lap
Full braking
Maximum G cornering​
I used fully synthetic oil and replaced the filters regularly. At the end of that time I stripped the engine and measured the component wear. Everything was within new specification. My opinion is that the only thing that could have killed that engine is poor maintenance or an over-rev due to mis-shift.
 
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Thank you @Hondata and @jasonjm. Makes sense that lifetime of some ā€˜wearā€™ elements might be shortened and good to see data indicating ā€˜engine conditionā€™ being unaffected per data from folks like Hondata.
@jasonjmā€™s point about data being limited to 2017 was kind of the spirit of my original question.

Anyways, all this just means Iā€™m getting closer to buying myself a belated Xmas present by handing over some money to Hondata.... :)

Thanks again.
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