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It’s not even fast lol. This is facts. Car makes 128whp and 105wtq stock. Adding a turbo kit and not using a tuner since Ktuner and Hondata don’t support turbo for these cars would yield maybe under 200whp if that with improper tuning
You're right in the sense that adding a turbo to this car just doesnt make any sense since there's no support for it from the aftermarket. You would end up spending more money for not amazing gains when you could just get a new car altogether.

And yeah from the factory it doesnt make a lot of power, but with the tune the car does become decent for what it is and still manages to put a smile on my face even when I have a 540 horsepower car sitting in my garage. Not fast by any means, but not boring, if I wanted fast i wouldnt have bought a base engine Civic lol.

And also, what do you expect from a 2.0 na that Honda purposefully neutered so it would be a base engine that wouldn't overshadow the turbo engine? From my time on this forum, i've seen nothing but hate for people who want to mess with their 2.0 cars, which is hilarious since all Civics were n/a till this generation. They're good cars in their own right and theres nothing wrong with people being interested in it, grow up. And btw, I could say that the Si is "slow" compared to many cars out there you're not exactly driving a rocketship. Its all subjective, I bet muscle car owners think the same thing of your Si when they see it on the street lol.
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It’s not even fast lol. This is facts. Car makes 128whp and 105wtq stock. Adding a turbo kit and not using a tuner since Ktuner and Hondata don’t support turbo for these cars would yield maybe under 200whp if that with improper tuning
Well if you’re not interested then just leave the page. It’s that simple. Everything is impossible until it’s possible. So just let the guy be. I understand it’s not an ideal situation when you could just buy a turbo car from the factory but it’s still interesting. I own both a turbo 1.5 and a 2.0 NA so I know both motors very well. I, along with others, am just curious on how things turned out for him. I’m sure that’s how the 1.5t came about. Somebody probably thought how cool it would be to turbo a Honda Fit and now they are slapping them in civics.
 

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You're right in the sense that adding a turbo to this car just doesnt make any sense since there's no support for it from the aftermarket. You would end up spending more money for not amazing gains when you could just get a new car altogether.

And yeah from the factory it doesnt make a lot of power, but with the tune the car does become decent for what it is and still manages to put a smile on my face even when I have a 540 horsepower car sitting in my garage. Not fast by any means, but not boring, if I wanted fast i wouldnt have bought a base engine Civic lol.

And also, what do you expect from a 2.0 na that Honda purposefully neutered so it would be a base engine that wouldn't overshadow the turbo engine? From my time on this forum, i've seen nothing but hate for people who want to mess with their 2.0 cars, which is hilarious since all Civics were n/a till this generation. They're good cars in their own right and theres nothing wrong with people being interested in it, grow up. And btw, I could say that the Si is "slow" compared to many cars out there you're not exactly driving a rocketship. Its all subjective, I bet muscle car owners think the same thing of your Si when they see it on the street lol.
A FBO flex fuel SI will give a lot of muscle cars a run for their money. Even if underpowered compared to a 400-500ish HP Muscle car, they weigh a lot less. :catfight::innocent:
 

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Well if you’re not interested then just leave the page. It’s that simple. Everything is impossible until it’s possible. So just let the guy be. I understand it’s not an ideal situation when you could just buy a turbo car from the factory but it’s still interesting. I own both a turbo 1.5 and a 2.0 NA so I know both motors very well. I, along with others, am just curious on how things turned out for him. I’m sure that’s how the 1.5t came about. Somebody probably thought how cool it would be to turbo a Honda Fit and now they are slapping them in civics.
When tuners of both Ktuner and hondata as well as the owners of those companies say it's not worth it then it should mean something lol. Another thing to mention is when the owner was asked numerous times what he used to tune the car with it was either ktuner or hondata which is impossible because there is 0 support for that option as confirmed by Ktuner and Hondata as previously stated.
 

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When tuners of both Ktuner and hondata as well as the owners of those companies say it's not worth it then it should mean something lol. Another thing to mention is when the owner was asked numerous times what he used to tune the car with it was either ktuner or hondata which is impossible because there is 0 support for that option as confirmed by Ktuner and Hondata as previously stated.
No way to read Manifold pressure on these cars.
It literally cannot be done unless you run a aftermarket ecu like a HALTECH, AEM, MoTeC, etc.
 


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No way to read Manifold pressure on these cars.
It literally cannot be done unless you run a aftermarket ecu like a HALTECH, AEM, MoTeC, etc.
Which he doesn’t have lol. He said he was using ktuner last I remember which your right they can’t read manifold pressure so no boost lol
 

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When tuners of both Ktuner and hondata as well as the owners of those companies say it's not worth it then it should mean something lol. Another thing to mention is when the owner was asked numerous times what he used to tune the car with it was either ktuner or hondata which is impossible because there is 0 support for that option as confirmed by Ktuner and Hondata as previously stated.
They said it's not worth boosting the 2.0, ktuner has a tune for the 2.0 n/a. Like I said, I get that boosting the 2.0 is more trouble than it's worth, but i'm sick of the hate overall on 2.0 threads. If you go on most threads concerning the 2.0, you'll see what im talking about. Toxic af.
 

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A FBO flex fuel SI will give a lot of muscle cars a run for their money. Even if underpowered compared to a 400-500ish HP Muscle car, they weigh a lot less. :catfight::innocent:
Put a couple bolt ons on those muscle cars and it's not even a race, especially the ones with the new automatics which outshift the manuals. You'd need to seriously modify your 1.5 in order to stand a chance, and at that point i'd be concerned about overall reliability in the long run. Not hating on the Si, but those are the facts.
 

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They said it's not worth boosting the 2.0, ktuner has a tune for the 2.0 n/a. Like I said, I get that boosting the 2.0 is more trouble than it's worth, but i'm sick of the hate overall on 2.0 threads. If you go on most threads concerning the 2.0, you'll see what im talking about. Toxic af.
It's not that its not worth it, It's that you physically cannot correctly tune the car for the usage of a turbo because you cannot read manifold pressures therefore unable to regulate ANYTHING that has to do with the turbo. The ecu is designed to read vacuum because it is Naturally aspirated, it is not meant to read positive manifold pressure (BOOST.)
 

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Put a couple bolt ons on those muscle cars and it's not even a race, especially the ones with the new automatics which outshift the manuals. You'd need to seriously modify your 1.5 in order to stand a chance, and at that point i'd be concerned about overall reliability in the long run. Not hating on the Si, but those are the facts.
A naturally aspirated V8 is not gaining another 100hp from an intake / bolt ons brother.
Sorry to say, gains on a NA car with bolt ons is not like a turbo car. Perhaps maybe 20-40 whp increase, and that's on the high side just to be sure. ;)

The big turbos for these cars keep the torque down. This allows you to make 300+ whp without destroying your internals. Just gotta make sure to keep torque below that dangerous 350 ft lb line.
 


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It's not that its not worth it, It's that you physically cannot correctly tune the car for the usage of a turbo because you cannot read manifold pressures therefore unable to regulate ANYTHING that has to do with the turbo. The ecu is designed to read vacuum because it is Naturally aspirated, it is not meant to read positive manifold pressure (BOOST.)
I know that. But if you throw enough money at it you could probably get it to work using a custom aftermarket ecu, it would be expensive as hell but it's possible. But is it worth it? Hell no. With money anything is possible but that doesn't mean you should do it.
 

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I know that. But if you throw enough money at it you could probably get it to work using a custom aftermarket ecu, it would be expensive as hell but it's possible. But is it worth it? Hell no. With money anything is possible but that doesn't mean you should do it.
This is the entire argument Toto is trying to tell OP.
OP does not have a aftermarket ecu. and insists that he tuned with a ktuner. The car will not run correctly. and under load quite possibly will give out a very loud bang, and fail.
 

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This is the entire argument Toto is trying to tell OP.
OP does not have a aftermarket ecu. and insists that he tuned with a ktuner. The car will not run correctly. and under load quite possibly will give out a very loud bang, and fail.
Yeah and I agree with that piece of it, I even called out the OP myself at one point. But all im saying is that @LilToTo17 seemed condescending in general towards 2.0 owners. I've repeated this throughout but thats a theme with almost all 2.0 threads, cant ask a question about performance or even talk about it without some 1.5 guy chiming in with something like "lol you're car is slow my 1.5 is way better".
 

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Yeah and I agree with that piece of it, I even called out the OP myself at one point. But all im saying is that @LilToTo17 seemed condescending in general towards 2.0 owners. I've repeated this throughout but thats a theme with almost all 2.0 threads, cant ask a question about performance or even talk about it without some 1.5 guy chiming in with something like "lol you're car is slow my 1.5 is way better".
Did I ever say my car was better lol no. Your just putting words on a a screen. I am just stating that tuners all around are saying it isn't possible unless he's running a standalone ecu which he isn't and that's been acknowledged by the OP months on on FB.
He says to hit his tuner up and it's all bullshit lol
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Did I ever say my car was better lol no. Your just putting words on a a screen. I am just stating that tuners all around are saying it isn't possible unless he's running a standalone ecu which he isn't and that's been acknowledged by the OP months on on FB.
He says to hit his tuner up and it's all bullshit lol
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I just got the vibe that you were from your posts. But maybe I misunderstood, i've seen people (including myself) get shot down all the time by other guys on other threads, so i'm just used to it. That being said, I still think despite all the bullshit, his build still interests me and other people as well. He still seems to be running the engine after months without it blowing up, which is a feat in itself. Problem is, OP wont say anything substantial about his build for us to look int. It besides that "it's ktuned" and ktuner themselves said it's not possible. So i'm just trying to figure out how he's keeping his car running at this point.
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